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musicbookscience musicbookscience https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=585121
- KVRer
- 29 posts since 16 Oct, 2022
If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
Next plugins you will buy if you hate production stuffs so want any tool that will make life easier? (like instead of sound designing, using presets)
Here's also a list: pick one (if picking two put them in priority order please)
Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Keyscape, Trilian, Stylus)
Fabfilter Total bundle
Izotope Everything Bundle
Altiverb
BBC Symphony Orchestra Pro
Komplete 13 Ultimate
Next plugins you will buy if you hate production stuffs so want any tool that will make life easier? (like instead of sound designing, using presets)
Here's also a list: pick one (if picking two put them in priority order please)
Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Keyscape, Trilian, Stylus)
Fabfilter Total bundle
Izotope Everything Bundle
Altiverb
BBC Symphony Orchestra Pro
Komplete 13 Ultimate
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neverenoughfunk neverenoughfunk https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12310
- KVRian
- 828 posts since 6 Feb, 2004
to be honest, i would start out with Komplete Standard 14. you get drums, bass, keys, synths, etc... once you get comfortable with Komplete Standard you could always update/upgrade to the other products... most of us will agree... having a ton of instruments/effects makes one not to productive... productivity is the key to "HAPPY" music making... having a ton of instruments is impressive but but productivity > ton of instruments...musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
Next plugins you will buy if you hate production stuffs so want any tool that will make life easier? (like instead of sound designing, using presets)
Here's also a list: pick one (if picking two put them in priority order please)
Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Keyscape, Trilian, Stylus)
Fabfilter Total bundle
Izotope Everything Bundle
Altiverb
BBC Symphony Orchestra Pro
Komplete 13 Ultimate
- Beware the Quoth
- 35434 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Spend time learning until I knew what I needed without having to ask someone else.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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neverenoughfunk neverenoughfunk https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12310
- KVRian
- 828 posts since 6 Feb, 2004
i like this answer better than mine!!!whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:59 pmSpend time learning until I knew what I needed without having to ask someone else.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
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musicbookscience musicbookscience https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=585121
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 Oct, 2022
Even though I have already mentioned how much I hate this production stuff, maybe I was not clear enough, so apologies.whyterabbyt wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:59 pmSpend time learning until I knew what I needed without having to ask someone else.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
The goal is to learn the minimum stuffs related to production while maximizing outcome. As a singer-songwriter, I only and solely enjoy song writing and singing part.
Let's say you enjoy eating, but you hate cooking, like absolutely loothe it. When you asked for advice how can you enjoy great foods with minimum effort, me telling you to learn to cook properly is pointless. A good advice would be buying meal prep of your liking, to make cooking more bearable. That is what I am asking here. I hope this clears thinvs up about what I am actually looking for.
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musicbookscience musicbookscience https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=585121
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 Oct, 2022
I appreciate your response. If you read my reply to the other comment here, you will have a better idea why I am asking for this. For example, Instead of manually notching down each resonance if there is a plugin that does this automatically, I would rather have that plugin to do it. so I am looking for stuffs like that to make production bearable for me, for someone who loothes production.neverenoughfunk wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:46 pmto be honest, i would start out with Komplete Standard 14. you get drums, bass, keys, synths, etc... once you get comfortable with Komplete Standard you could always update/upgrade to the other products... most of us will agree... having a ton of instruments/effects makes one not to productive... productivity is the key to "HAPPY" music making... having a ton of instruments is impressive but but productivity > ton of instruments...musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
Next plugins you will buy if you hate production stuffs so want any tool that will make life easier? (like instead of sound designing, using presets)
Here's also a list: pick one (if picking two put them in priority order please)
Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Keyscape, Trilian, Stylus)
Fabfilter Total bundle
Izotope Everything Bundle
Altiverb
BBC Symphony Orchestra Pro
Komplete 13 Ultimate
- Beware the Quoth
- 35434 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Except I didnt advise you to learn how to cook.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:04 pm Let's say you enjoy eating, but you hate cooking, like absolutely loothe it. When you asked for advice how can you enjoy great foods with minimum effort, me telling you to learn to cook properly is pointless. A good advice would be buying meal prep of your liking, to make cooking more bearable. That is what I am asking here. I hope this clears thinvs up about what I am actually looking for.
I advised you to learn the applicability of what's available (across the board from your local supermarket, to Ocado, Hello Fresh, and Deliveroo) to your specific taste in food and dietary requirements.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 2990 posts since 31 Jan, 2020
- KVRAF
- 2990 posts since 31 Jan, 2020
Soothe 2, Gullfoss, dynamic eq for example Tokyo Dawn Labs Nova which is free?musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:09 pm For example, Instead of manually notching down each resonance if there is a plugin that does this automatically, I would rather have that plugin to do it
There are cheaper alternatives to Soothe for example Baby Audio Smooth Operator
- KVRAF
- 2990 posts since 31 Jan, 2020
Eventide Spliteq look at this too.
You might need to use a combination of tools.
You might need to use a combination of tools.
- KVRAF
- 16804 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You don't need to do production. How about:musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:04 pm As a singer-songwriter, I only and solely enjoy song writing and singing part.
* just sing songs you wrote. Why record / produce?
* teaming up with someone that enjoys producing, but lacks song ideas
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. 
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
My MusicCalc is served over https!!
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- KVRian
- 1365 posts since 2 Mar, 2018
Your question is too vague to give very meaningful answers IMO. You can make professional popular music with what you have. You could with the other things you listed. You could also do it with stock DAW plugins and/or free plugins, many which are very good.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:09 pm If you were trying to make professional sounding popular music, have the followings: Ableton live 11 suite, Autotune Pro, Melodyne 5 Editor, Pigments and Phase Plant: how would you proceed next?
Next plugins you will buy if you hate production stuffs so want any tool that will make life easier? (like instead of sound designing, using presets)
Here's also a list: pick one (if picking two put them in priority order please)
Spectrasonics (Omnisphere, Keyscape, Trilian, Stylus)
Fabfilter Total bundle
Izotope Everything Bundle
Altiverb
BBC Symphony Orchestra Pro
Komplete 13 Ultimate
How easy they are to use varies and is subjective. Things like gulfoss (EQ) and izotope's mixing/mastering tools like Ozone and Neutron sound like what you're looking for as they "automatically" do some of the things people normally do more manually.
But you're going to need to either put some serious time in learning how to use whatever tools you choose or have someone do it for you. There's no big "easy button" you can push and out pops a perfect sounding recording. I wish.
- KVRAF
- 20739 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Komplete 13 Ultimate Collector's Edition
UJAM Full Bundle
Either iZotope Mix & Master Bundle (you you don't need the Everything Bundle) or Sonible smart:bundle
Everything on your list is good but these will do a lot of the work for you automatically.
UJAM Full Bundle
Either iZotope Mix & Master Bundle (you you don't need the Everything Bundle) or Sonible smart:bundle
Everything on your list is good but these will do a lot of the work for you automatically.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRist
- 409 posts since 19 Feb, 2022
Edit: I can't seem to make my point without sounding like a d**k lol, I'm really not trying to, I'm just trying to point out it sounds like you want to do something you hate doing, so are asking how to do it without doing it? idk lol.
Lemme try again:
From what I gather, OP isn't after a magic "fix my mix" plugin, they're after a magic "do it for me" plugin. Those do exist, but idk how 'popular' your music is gonna be using those in excess. (yes I know OP means the genre pop music).
If you hate production but enjoy singer/songwriter stuff, just do that and let a producer handle the production.
Otherwise it kinda sounds like you're saying:
"I want to make professional 5-star cuisine, but I hate to cook."
"I want to be a professional NASCAR racer, but I hate to drive."
"I want to be a professional artist, but I hate to draw/paint/etc."
You're asking for advice on production software and tools, but you hate production lol.
Lots of people enjoy listening to music ("eating food"), without producing music ("cooking the food").
If you hate cooking food but love to eat great food, then don't cook, just eat food someone else prepares.
If you want to have finished professional sounding productions, but "hate production stuffs", well then... don't produce lol. I realize this is opening the door for many digressive comments, but, I mean, I feel it's accurate. Do singer/songwriter stuff and let someone else do the production.
Finally, the part about using presets instead of doing your own sound design isn't really accurate when talking about a producer doing full productions.
To keep the cooking analogies going, sound design and presets are like a single, raw ingredients, not the entire cooked, platted and presented dish. A producer is like the chef that puts all the individual ingredients together and makes the final dish.
Lemme try again:
From what I gather, OP isn't after a magic "fix my mix" plugin, they're after a magic "do it for me" plugin. Those do exist, but idk how 'popular' your music is gonna be using those in excess. (yes I know OP means the genre pop music).
If you hate production but enjoy singer/songwriter stuff, just do that and let a producer handle the production.
Otherwise it kinda sounds like you're saying:
"I want to make professional 5-star cuisine, but I hate to cook."
"I want to be a professional NASCAR racer, but I hate to drive."
"I want to be a professional artist, but I hate to draw/paint/etc."
You're asking for advice on production software and tools, but you hate production lol.
IMO this analogy doesn't stand. Eating food is to cooking food as listening to music is to producing music.musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:04 pmLet's say you enjoy eating, but you hate cooking, like absolutely loothe it. When you asked for advice how can you enjoy great foods with minimum effort, me telling you to learn to cook properly is pointless.
Lots of people enjoy listening to music ("eating food"), without producing music ("cooking the food").
If you hate cooking food but love to eat great food, then don't cook, just eat food someone else prepares.
If you want to have finished professional sounding productions, but "hate production stuffs", well then... don't produce lol. I realize this is opening the door for many digressive comments, but, I mean, I feel it's accurate. Do singer/songwriter stuff and let someone else do the production.
Story of the last couple of generations of home producers IMO lol. There was a thread on another forum where someone asked/said "I want my music to sound professional", then after all the solid advice they got, they replied with "Yeah but I want to sound professional now, not in a few years after spending time getting better." lol. Like, idk what to say to that?musicbookscience wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:04 pmThe goal is to learn the minimum stuffs related to production while maximizing outcome.
Finally, the part about using presets instead of doing your own sound design isn't really accurate when talking about a producer doing full productions.
To keep the cooking analogies going, sound design and presets are like a single, raw ingredients, not the entire cooked, platted and presented dish. A producer is like the chef that puts all the individual ingredients together and makes the final dish.
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