New from Pittsburgh Modular. This looks cool as (what you'd expect from PM) ... 3 osc, 3 wave folders, paraphonic, semi-modular analog synth. I'm tempted.
Thomann have them at £799
Pittsburgh Modular TAIGA
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240 - KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRAF
- 14034 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
... some build/function details:
And ~ the drone! @1:35:40
And ~ the drone! @1:35:40
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 16920 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Not tempted, at all. That drone bores me. I think that semi-modular instruments are fine, but I'm not seeing $800 of instrument here. Sue me, I'm judgey like that.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35530 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I like what Molten Modular got out of it, but, like things like the Pest/Beast and MakeNoise boxes, I always wind up deciding that my trusty two-row Bugbrand system could cover enough of the territory as a system to reduce the 'new box shiny' effect to manageable levels.
Which helps with the fact Ive got limited deskspace left.
So after the first hour of 'oooh gimme,' the Taiga briefly made me wonder if I should try and pick up another couple of BB wavefolders, for the one per oscillator thing, and now Im 'sanely' (er, right) back to thinking I could 'just' pick up another Eurorack wavefolder...
I'd consider the Taiga if someone handed me a grand and forced me to spend it on audio gear, though.
Hmmm, maybe I could find room, beside the NiftyCase....
Which helps with the fact Ive got limited deskspace left.
So after the first hour of 'oooh gimme,' the Taiga briefly made me wonder if I should try and pick up another couple of BB wavefolders, for the one per oscillator thing, and now Im 'sanely' (er, right) back to thinking I could 'just' pick up another Eurorack wavefolder...
I'd consider the Taiga if someone handed me a grand and forced me to spend it on audio gear, though.
Hmmm, maybe I could find room, beside the NiftyCase....
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 8089 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
In the various demos, I've heard some absolutely killer sweet spots from those oscillators. The rest of the synth ranges from competent but not impressive, to "why did they choose that?" IMHO.
I'd like to try one in person. I do suspect it'd make a fine drone box. But I'm not convinced to throw $800 at it and have it replace my Minibrute 2S. I have lots of hardware and software that can do impressive drones.
But if they offered that exact oscillator design as a Eurorack module at a reasonable price I would likely grab one.
I'd like to try one in person. I do suspect it'd make a fine drone box. But I'm not convinced to throw $800 at it and have it replace my Minibrute 2S. I have lots of hardware and software that can do impressive drones.
But if they offered that exact oscillator design as a Eurorack module at a reasonable price I would likely grab one.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35530 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
likewise.foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:57 pm But if they offered that exact oscillator design as a Eurorack module at a reasonable price I would likely grab one.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 8089 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Also based on my experience with Pittsburgh modules... attention to detail and getting things pristine and clean isn't their forte. Honestly on the Double Helix some of that led to some cool charm it wouldn't have had otherwise, and I didn't mind most of it, but some of it was freaking annoying or borderline broken and required some workarounds. (FWIW, I do still miss my Double Helix but I can't point to 28HP of gear I'd be willing to trade to make room for one again.)
I get the impression that Taiga is this way too.
I get the impression that Taiga is this way too.
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- KVRAF
- 14034 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Agree.imrae wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:59 pm Looks like it would be a nice starting point for a modular system, less likely to be useful as an expansion of a well-balanced existing system.
Ditto. ... but, that is kinda what the West Pest/East Beast are +some stuff.whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:17 pmlikewise.foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:57 pm But if they offered that exact oscillator design as a Eurorack module at a reasonable price I would likely grab one.
... meanwhile:
Experimenting with Wavefolders @10:24
FM Feedback Experiments @16:17
Waveshaping Feedback @22:30
Preamp Experiments @27:56
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 8089 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Eh, West Pest's oscillator shares some design elements but quite a bit different in details. Pittsburgh has done several different -- but all tasty -- variations on its wavefolder and the way it integrates into their various gear.
I wish they made a standalone wavefolder. Microvolt, Voltage Lab, LPO, West Pest and Taiga don't have an external input for the folder, only Double Helix does.
I wish they made a standalone wavefolder. Microvolt, Voltage Lab, LPO, West Pest and Taiga don't have an external input for the folder, only Double Helix does.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35530 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
At 40HP, though. On the Taiga, the 3 ocillators look to be, what, 8HP each?Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:47 pm Ditto. ... but, that is kinda what the West Pest/East Beast are +some stuff.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRAF
- 14034 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
True... all good points. I suspect the wavefolder is so tightly integrated into the oscillator (firmware) itself, and as such is or is intended to become part of their "signature" Pittsburgh sound, that as a stand alone unit it would prove somewhat underwhelming, or even be perceived as working against a 'feature' that currently makes them unique. The Double Helix (which I have) wavefolder is severely limited compared to many other stand-alone units currently available.foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:52 pm Eh, West Pest's oscillator shares some design elements but quite a bit different in details. Pittsburgh has done several different -- but all tasty -- variations on its wavefolder and the way it integrates into their various gear.
I wish they made a standalone wavefolder. Microvolt, Voltage Lab, LPO, West Pest and Taiga don't have an external input for the folder, only Double Helix does.
True again. I forgot how wide they were.whyterabbyt wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:53 pmAt 40HP, though. On the Taiga, the 3 oscillators look to be, what, 8HP each?Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:47 pm Ditto. ... but, that is kinda what the West Pest/East Beast are +some stuff.
But, they do have a lot of extra stuff, which Pittsburgh (being Pittsburgh) uses to promote them as "core" or center-piece units to build upon. And yes, the Taiga oscillators appear to be 8hp to me, as well. I'd like to see the trio of oscillators, and the mixer/pre-amp section as a separate unit.
And, while I agree that $800 is steep, and beyond my current 'list-placement' priorities, I do find it to be a quite interesting module.
... more:
LFO speed/rate, followed by some interesting oscillators/wavefolding cross-modulation features starting @1:08:45
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 8089 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Apparently I was wrong and West Pest does have a folder input. That immediately makes it even more tempting than it was before. Maybe I can squeeze it on the stands next to my Strega and 0-Ctrl?foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:52 pm I wish they made a standalone wavefolder. Microvolt, Voltage Lab, LPO, West Pest and Taiga don't have an external input for the folder, only Double Helix does.
Or maybe a WP and another smol synth can take over my Minibrute space. (Pluto? Double Knot? A second Strega?) Also Capt'n Big-O has a fold input, but... I loathe almost every single aspect of that panel, from the name to the jack spacing, and I am not normally the type to complain about such things.
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- KVRAF
- 16920 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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yup.foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:25 pmApparently I was wrong and West Pest does have a folder input.foosnark wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 2:52 pm I wish they made a standalone wavefolder. Microvolt, Voltage Lab, LPO, West Pest and Taiga don't have an external input for the folder, only Double Helix does.
