KVR Audio

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:09 pm

Am not a newbie when it comes to how to use effects, but I can't seem to be able to recreate some of the trippy sound effects used by Stars of the Lid and others. The kind of effects that would work well for psybient genre of music.

Hyperspace VST by United is amazing, an algorithmic reverb. So, what would be your recommendations for (gently) trippy fx ?

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:13 am

Is there a particular track with the effects? A quick listen seemed just be slow pads and reverb. Was there something in particular you meant?

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:22 am

With Stars of the lid, they have a few effects, one is like a phaser but without the distortion of sound, the sound seems to "crossover". Really difficult to describe. Another is what sounds like an echo but just of a certain frequency. But I'm interested in anyone's experience with trippy fx and recommendations too.

_leras · Post by **_leras** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:33 pm

So.... delay, reverb, phaser or flanger. Slow chords. Done?

Doesn't sound very trippy to me... that would imply something more like Sphongle maybe...?

wesleymayhem · Post by **wesleymayhem** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:51 pm

Portal
any granular effects
unfiltered audio fx
Native Instruments Guitar Rig

HOTF · Post by **HOTF** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:17 pm

For ambient any time based effect like : chorus, ensemble, phaser , flanger, reverb delay are import. Also having slow modulation on many parameters helps the track moving and it feels like it's breathing. Grannular synthesis and audi stretching are also quite popular in the genre. IMO, The best audio plugin for enormous evovling drone sounds is still the Metaphysical Function ensemble for Reaktor.

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:19 pm

Yea I second Reaktor. All kinds of trippy FX modules. Also Sugar Bytes Turnado & Izotope Stutter Edit & Tantra.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:13 am

I had a listen to a few of theirs on YT. Didn't hear any kind of fancy FX. Loads of washy droning pads. Could be any manner of reverb/delays on the pads but who can tell when it's just a drone that goes on for 5 minutes? TBH I didn't even hear any phasing or flanging going on. Sounded a bit more like their cat sat on a keyboard, fell asleep and they recorded it for lack of anything else to do because they didn't want to play any tunes and disturb the cat...

enroe · Post by **enroe** » Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:32 am

kritikon wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:13 am ... Sounded a bit more like their cat sat on a keyboard, fell asleep and they recorded it for lack of anything else to do because they didn't want to play any tunes and disturb the cat...

Ok, but the problem is: Not all of us have a cat that loves to
lie down on the keyboard and fall asleep there. So this is a
huge problem!

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:24 pm

HOTF wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:17 pm For ambient any time based effect like : chorus, ensemble, phaser , flanger, reverb delay are import. Also having slow modulation on many parameters helps the track moving and it feels like it's breathing. Grannular synthesis and audi stretching are also quite popular in the genre. IMO, The best audio plugin for enormous evovling drone sounds is still the Metaphysical Function ensemble for Reaktor.

Hey thanks.. appreciate it, I'll have to dig more into Metaphysical. I found Sample Modulator A works great for ambient too.

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:26 pm

kritikon wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:13 am I had a listen to a few of theirs on YT. Didn't hear any kind of fancy FX. Loads of washy droning pads. Could be any manner of reverb/delays on the pads but who can tell when it's just a drone that goes on for 5 minutes? TBH I didn't even hear any phasing or flanging going on. Sounded a bit more like their cat sat on a keyboard, fell asleep and they recorded it for lack of anything else to do because they didn't want to play any tunes and disturb the cat...

They use FX sparsely, as for the cat, well it was well trained.

it was zen.

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:27 pm

_leras wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:33 pm So.... delay, reverb, phaser or flanger. Slow chords. Done?

Doesn't sound very trippy to me... that would imply something more like Sphongle maybe...?

It's pre-trip, to calm first.

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:28 pm

wesleymayhem wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:51 pm Portal
any granular effects
unfiltered audio fx
Native Instruments Guitar Rig

Thanks .. experimenting ! Sample Modulator A for Reaktor, so cool.

Portal?

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:32 pm

Never underestimate the power of reversing stuff. Either use reversed samples (guitars always good), or reverse reverb, using the old 'bounce with full wet reverb then reverse the resulting track' trick, or both.

bookofthoth · Post by **bookofthoth** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:39 pm

donkey tugger wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:32 pm Never underestimate the power of reversing stuff. Either use reversed samples (guitars always good), or reverse reverb, using the old 'bounce with full wet reverb then reverse the resulting track' trick, or both.

Is that where you reverse the sample, add big reverb, then reverse again? I'll give that a go. Many, many moons ago, I sampled from that Enigma album. At the beginning a woman speaks "welcome to the world of music.. something and spirit". I isolated the word spirit, and reversed it. I expected to hear something like "tirips" but it played back as "spirits" ...

weird.

Psychoacoustic Psychedelic effects, how and recommendations.