Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro audio dropouts
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- KVRist
- 184 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
New laptop - thin & light, I7 1360p CPU (i.e. Intel 13th Gen), 16GB DDR5 RAM. Primarily for travelling but would like to do some music stuff as well (my main rig is an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with 64GB RAM & no issues!).
I use Cubase Pro (& I know there are possible issues with Intel 12th & 13th gen CPUs & efficiency cores) but dropouts are evident on standalone VSTs too.
After trying the obvious fixes (e.g. shutdown non-essential processes, switch off Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, set power to 'Best Performance' etc.) I still get clicks & pops. CPU stays around 13-15% so not a CPU issue.
I use ASIO4ALL as a driver (Steinberg's Generic Low Latency Driver is terrible) with 512 buffer.
LatencyMon suggests the following are the cultprits:
Highest measured interrupt to process latency: 8215 micro seconds
Highest reported ISR routine execution time: i8042prt.sys i8042 Port Driver (1228 micro seconds)
Highest reported DPC routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel (8781 micro seconds)
I've had a look online & see this issue crops up frequently but can't find (or understand!) a solution.
Anybody got any thoughts? It's a pretty high-spec laptop & odd that it's pretty poor at audio...
Thanks!
I use Cubase Pro (& I know there are possible issues with Intel 12th & 13th gen CPUs & efficiency cores) but dropouts are evident on standalone VSTs too.
After trying the obvious fixes (e.g. shutdown non-essential processes, switch off Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, set power to 'Best Performance' etc.) I still get clicks & pops. CPU stays around 13-15% so not a CPU issue.
I use ASIO4ALL as a driver (Steinberg's Generic Low Latency Driver is terrible) with 512 buffer.
LatencyMon suggests the following are the cultprits:
Highest measured interrupt to process latency: 8215 micro seconds
Highest reported ISR routine execution time: i8042prt.sys i8042 Port Driver (1228 micro seconds)
Highest reported DPC routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel (8781 micro seconds)
I've had a look online & see this issue crops up frequently but can't find (or understand!) a solution.
Anybody got any thoughts? It's a pretty high-spec laptop & odd that it's pretty poor at audio...
Thanks!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 184 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
Yeah thanks, I guess so but it kinda defeats the object of having a light travel laptop if I have to carry around an audio interface too.
That said, Arturia's MiniFuse is an option maybe...
That said, Arturia's MiniFuse is an option maybe...
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- KVRAF
- 35718 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
True, and your LatencyMon results definitely point to a general issue with working with real-time audio. I don't know if you'll be able to tackle that though. At least I wouldn't know where to start.FJ5 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:42 am Yeah thanks, I guess so but it kinda defeats the object of having a light travel laptop if I have to carry around an audio interface too.
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
i8042 > Keyboard/mouse driverFJ5 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:20 am New laptop - thin & light, I7 1360p CPU (i.e. Intel 13th Gen), 16GB DDR5 RAM. Primarily for travelling but would like to do some music stuff as well (my main rig is an AMD Ryzen 9 5950X with 64GB RAM & no issues!).
I use Cubase Pro (& I know there are possible issues with Intel 12th & 13th gen CPUs & efficiency cores) but dropouts are evident on standalone VSTs too.
After trying the obvious fixes (e.g. shutdown non-essential processes, switch off Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, set power to 'Best Performance' etc.) I still get clicks & pops. CPU stays around 13-15% so not a CPU issue.
I use ASIO4ALL as a driver (Steinberg's Generic Low Latency Driver is terrible) with 512 buffer.
LatencyMon suggests the following are the cultprits:
Highest measured interrupt to process latency: 8215 micro seconds
Highest reported ISR routine execution time: i8042prt.sys i8042 Port Driver (1228 micro seconds)
Highest reported DPC routine execution time: dxgkrnl.sys - DirectX Graphics Kernel (8781 micro seconds)
I've had a look online & see this issue crops up frequently but can't find (or understand!) a solution.
Anybody got any thoughts? It's a pretty high-spec laptop & odd that it's pretty poor at audio...
Thanks!
dxgkrnl > Graphics adapter
Try different/older/newer drivers. (I can't do much else to help you from here)
Oh, and don't use 'Best Performance' power plan; let Cubase activate its own when running.
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
An if-all-else-fails plan:
Reinstall Windows from a clean (Microsoft provided) ISO, and only install Samsung drivers if really needed.
Reinstall Windows from a clean (Microsoft provided) ISO, and only install Samsung drivers if really needed.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 184 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
Thanks for that. I guessed that graphics was an issue (though just using the integrated Iris Xe).
Interesting about the keyboard/mouse though.
Thinking now whether an external interface would help. Might try connecting my MOTU M2 (that I use for my main rig) & see if it helps.
Maybe I should've bought a MacBook Air...
Interesting about the keyboard/mouse though.
Thinking now whether an external interface would help. Might try connecting my MOTU M2 (that I use for my main rig) & see if it helps.
Maybe I should've bought a MacBook Air...
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Laptop manufacturers often install their own versions of drivers. How they differ from the Intel or Microsoft ones? Who knows.FJ5 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:20 pm Thanks for that. I guessed that graphics was an issue (though just using the integrated Iris Xe).
Use this:
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/di ... nload.html
Then let Windows install the Microsoft driver.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 184 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
Cool thanks will have a lookT-CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:33 pmLaptop manufacturers often install their own versions of drivers. How they differ from the Intel or Microsoft ones? Who knows.FJ5 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:20 pm Thanks for that. I guessed that graphics was an issue (though just using the integrated Iris Xe).
Use this:
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/di ... nload.html
Then let Windows install the Microsoft driver.
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- KVRAF
- 35718 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Didn't know that Cubase does that. Do other DAWs do that as well?T-CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:54 pm Oh, and don't use 'Best Performance' power plan; let Cubase activate its own when running.
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Cubase does. (Studio>Studio Setup>Audio System>Activate Steinberg Audio Power Scheme) FL Studio doesn't (or didn't, in v20.8 ). I have no serious experience with other DAWs - maybe other people can answer that.
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- KVRAF
- 35718 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I never read anywhere that Studio One does something like it, and never found anything in the settings either, so, I'll just assume that it doesn't. 
It's a good idea though. Would save people the time always switching power plans, on multi purpose computers. I often forget to switch it back from high performance as well, which means that the CPU never throttles, even when the PC idles 90% of the time...
It's a good idea though. Would save people the time always switching power plans, on multi purpose computers. I often forget to switch it back from high performance as well, which means that the CPU never throttles, even when the PC idles 90% of the time...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 184 posts since 17 Dec, 2020
So I uninstalled the Iris Xe driver & now have "Microsoft Basic Display Adpater" as my graphics device.T-CM11 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:33 pmLaptop manufacturers often install their own versions of drivers. How they differ from the Intel or Microsoft ones? Who knows.FJ5 wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:20 pm Thanks for that. I guessed that graphics was an issue (though just using the integrated Iris Xe).
Use this:
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/di ... nload.html
Then let Windows install the Microsoft driver.
It seems now though that ACPI.sys - ACPI Driver for NT is causing an issue (2289 micro-seconds). I did see this occasionally prior to uninstalling the graphics driver.
