How to create this pluck / perc loop sound
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
Hello
Can anyone suggest,
how this pluck was made? It starts at 0:00
how this perc loop was made? It starts at 0:15 ?
Maybe it's some tropical synth and perc loop. Please help me... I use serum, vital, spiere or sylenth1 vst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QINslGhlC5Q
Can anyone suggest,
how this pluck was made? It starts at 0:00
how this perc loop was made? It starts at 0:15 ?
Maybe it's some tropical synth and perc loop. Please help me... I use serum, vital, spiere or sylenth1 vst.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QINslGhlC5Q
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
The pluck is very simple. Just a single sine oscillator. In Serum start from init preset, change OSC A to sine waveform, adjust ENV1 to a plucky envelope shape and add some reverb.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
Thank you for answering if you can make me a preset or show me how (screen or video). I tried and it does not work out for me .
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
Strange . Can't be simpler than this: I added the Serum's reverb FX in the preset, but it's quite poor quality. You would get better sound with a separate reverb plugin.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
I made pluck midi:
https://krakenfiles.com/view/vG019eo3tj/file.html
Thank you for your help, actually. It's easy if you know. Please tell me about this perc loop. How to make one (0:15)...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
Here are the drums, bass and the sine pluck together:
https://voca.ro/1oKAfUf1h0YR
The bass was made in Serum. Starting from a single saw osc through low-pass filter, some adjustments to levels of first couple of harmonics in wavetable editor, and a bit of chorus using TAL-Chorus-LX-64.
Moderate sidechaining from kick to prevent bass overlapping with kick too much.
The bass notes in the original track are a bit weird in my opinion. In the third bar of the loop it sounds like the bass goes from D# down to A. Those A notes seem to be out-of-key. In my recreation I used A# instead.
The drum beat has basic pop kick, chracterful tight snare, shakers and something like cheramic bowl hit sound.
The pattern is pretty simple and should be easy to figure out in your DAW. The main trick is to find good samples to get those snare and "bowl hit" sounds. Both are quite unique, probably common in that genre of music, and contribute a lot to the character of the beat. I couldn't find a proper snare sample and tried some layering with rimshots etc. In the end I decided to extract the snare from the original track.
For the "bowl hit" I used Ghatam from 'Discovery Series: India' Kontakt library. It's not exactly the same sound but has similar vibe.
Hope someone else can identify those snare and "bowl hit" samples. Would be interesting to know if there are proper names for those sounds.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
I use daw fl studio, I have the kontakt serum vst. Can you save and share with me:bluesawsq wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 4:07 pmHere are the drums, bass and the sine pluck together:
https://voca.ro/1oKAfUf1h0YR
The bass was made in Serum. Starting from a single saw osc through low-pass filter, some adjustments to levels of first couple of harmonics in wavetable editor, and a bit of chorus using TAL-Chorus-LX-64.
Moderate sidechaining from kick to prevent bass overlapping with kick too much.
The bass notes in the original track are a bit weird in my opinion. In the third bar of the loop it sounds like the bass goes from D# down to A. Those A notes seem to be out-of-key. In my recreation I used A# instead.
The drum beat has basic pop kick, chracterful tight snare, shakers and something like cheramic bowl hit sound.
The pattern is pretty simple and should be easy to figure out in your DAW. The main trick is to find good samples to get those snare and "bowl hit" sounds. Both are quite unique, probably common in that genre of music, and contribute a lot to the character of the beat. I couldn't find a proper snare sample and tried some layering with rimshots etc. In the end I decided to extract the snare from the original track.
For the "bowl hit" I used Ghatam from 'Discovery Series: India' Kontakt library. It's not exactly the same sound but has similar vibe.
Hope someone else can identify those snare and "bowl hit" samples. Would be interesting to know if there are proper names for those sounds.
clean loop wav,
midi and preset serum bass?
I also looked for proper names of loop sounds. However, I didn't find it.
If this is no problem, please provide me with midi wav loop and preset bass. Thank you for your help
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
Bass Serum preset + MIDI, and drums only mp3 in this zip:FIkcja wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:41 pm I use daw fl studio, I have the kontakt serum vst. Can you save and share with me:
clean loop wav,
midi and preset serum bass?
I also looked for proper names of loop sounds. However, I didn't find it.
If this is no problem, please provide me with midi wav loop and preset bass. Thank you for your help
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- KVRist
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- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
Wow Some say better than the original (my son). You're an best expert at reproduction orginal song. Great, thank you so much. I have one more request. "Please send me one shot your drums mp3 or wav samples - kick, snere / clap, perc" .bluesawsq wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:48 pmBass Serum preset + MIDI, and drums only mp3 in this zip:FIkcja wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 6:41 pm I use daw fl studio, I have the kontakt serum vst. Can you save and share with me:
clean loop wav,
midi and preset serum bass?
I also looked for proper names of loop sounds. However, I didn't find it.
If this is no problem, please provide me with midi wav loop and preset bass. Thank you for your help
Commando_bass_and_drums.zip
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
Thanks!
Sharing the one shot samples is not allowed. The drum sounds are based on samples from commercial sample libraries, and the licenses prohibit distribution or sharing the samples.
I made some minor adjustments to the samples, like tuning/envelopes/eq, but the sounds are probably still not enough distinguished from the original library samples.
To improve your own sound design skills, you should try to find proper samples and make the necessary adjustments yourself. It really pays off.
Here are some detailed tips for each drum sound. But you don't need to do it exactly same way. You can definitely get similar or better results based on different source samples and different adjustments.
Kick
'KSHMR Pop Kick 06' from 'Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4'.
Tuned up +1.89 semitones. Tail faded out to reduce the low frequency booming.
EQ settings can be seen here:
Snare
Extract the snare from the original track by finding the cleanest snare beat where other instruments, vocals, or effect tails are not masking the sound. I didn't search the whole track, but I found one relatively clean hit where the sine pluck synth chord plays on top of the snare. Sine waveform has only fundamental tone, no harmonics. And you can see those fundamental tones as sharp peaks in spectrum analyzer. Thus, it's easy to carve out the sine pluck notes from the snare using thin and deep EQ notches. And a low cut can be used to get rid of any bass tails that could overlap with the snare. Something like this:
Shakers
Two shaker samples from 'Sounds of KSHMR Vol 3' alternating. And some tail cut/fade + eq.
These are not very accurately matched to the original track. I just quickly added something with similar short and thin sound. Also applied a bit of reverb and tempo-synced sine LFO to Pan (not really the same as in the original track).
Ghatam
Sample from 'Discovery Series: India' Kontakt library, playing the note indicated by the yellow arrow in the image below. The sound was tuned down -4.50 semitones in Kontakt and EQ curve can be seen below.
In general, I would recommend to use spectrum analyzer and/or sonogram plugins. Something like Voxengo SPAN and FL Studio Wave Candy. You could do sound design by ear only. But it's much easier, faster, and more accurate using analyzer plugins.
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- KVRist
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- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
bluesawsq wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 9:36 amThanks!
Sharing the one shot samples is not allowed. The drum sounds are based on samples from commercial sample libraries, and the licenses prohibit distribution or sharing the samples.
I made some minor adjustments to the samples, like tuning/envelopes/eq, but the sounds are probably still not enough distinguished from the original library samples.
To improve your own sound design skills, you should try to find proper samples and make the necessary adjustments yourself. It really pays off.
Here are some detailed tips for each drum sound. But you don't need to do it exactly same way. You can definitely get similar or better results based on different source samples and different adjustments.
Kick
'KSHMR Pop Kick 06' from 'Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4'.
Tuned up +1.89 semitones. Tail faded out to reduce the low frequency booming.
EQ settings can be seen here:
commando_kick.png
Snare
Extract the snare from the original track by finding the cleanest snare beat where other instruments, vocals, or effect tails are not masking the sound. I didn't search the whole track, but I found one relatively clean hit where the sine pluck synth chord plays on top of the snare. Sine waveform has only fundamental tone, no harmonics. And you can see those fundamental tones as sharp peaks in spectrum analyzer. Thus, it's easy to carve out the sine pluck notes from the snare using thin and deep EQ notches. And a low cut can be used to get rid of any bass tails that could overlap with the snare. Something like this:
commando_snare.png
Shakers
Two shaker samples from 'Sounds of KSHMR Vol 3' alternating. And some tail cut/fade + eq.
These are not very accurately matched to the original track. I just quickly added something with similar short and thin sound. Also applied a bit of reverb and tempo-synced sine LFO to Pan (not really the same as in the original track).
commando_shaker_a.png
commando_shaker_b.png
Ghatam
Sample from 'Discovery Series: India' Kontakt library, playing the note indicated by the yellow arrow in the image below. The sound was tuned down -4.50 semitones in Kontakt and EQ curve can be seen below.
commando_ghatam.png
In general, I would recommend to use spectrum analyzer and/or sonogram plugins. Something like Voxengo SPAN and FL Studio Wave Candy. You could do sound design by ear only. But it's much easier, faster, and more accurate using analyzer plugins.
Great I have Sounds of KSHMR Vol 3 and Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4, the best sample packs in my opinion (all in one). Can you still show me a "screen .png " piano roll - How you created drums in your daw (ableton live daw). I'm learning to analyze notes, but I still have a lot of training. Thanks you
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- KVRist
- 198 posts since 21 Sep, 2020
No, I will not provide more help. Sorry.FIkcja wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:31 pm Great I have Sounds of KSHMR Vol 3 and Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4, the best sample packs in my opinion (all in one). Can you still show me a "screen .png " piano roll - How you created drums in your daw (ableton live daw). I'm learning to analyze notes, but I still have a lot of training. Thanks you
You have been on this forum already over two years asking many similar questions. And you got many helpful replies, including video instructions, from CHOOS and others. You really should be already able to figure out those things yourself.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 190 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
Still, thank you for your help, I learned a lot. I'm sorry if I irritated you.bluesawsq wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:03 pmNo, I will not provide more help. Sorry.FIkcja wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 12:31 pm Great I have Sounds of KSHMR Vol 3 and Sounds of KSHMR Vol 4, the best sample packs in my opinion (all in one). Can you still show me a "screen .png " piano roll - How you created drums in your daw (ableton live daw). I'm learning to analyze notes, but I still have a lot of training. Thanks you
You have been on this forum already over two years asking many similar questions. And you got many helpful replies, including video instructions, from CHOOS and others. You really should be already able to figure out those things yourself.