Please help me decide what to buy/sell next
-
- KVRer
- 28 posts since 29 Aug, 2014 from Sydney
You own the following pieces of equipment and you're using them all at the moment (loving that I haven't felt I've had time/need to put the deck savers on in months):
PC running Ableton 11
Novation Nio (still works after like 13 years)
Acess Virus B
Roland Sh01a
TB03
TR8s
Bass Station II
Electribe 2 Production Station (not the sampler)
Alto 1202 mixer (essentially 8 channels with EQ and faders, not 12 as it says)
Akai APC40mkII
2x Rokit 8 speakers
You have $600AUD (that's about $380ish US) to spend, and you can sell anything and use the resale value to replace what you can.
What would you do?
I get that many would think that is enough but if absolutely HAD to do something, what would it be?
PC running Ableton 11
Novation Nio (still works after like 13 years)
Acess Virus B
Roland Sh01a
TB03
TR8s
Bass Station II
Electribe 2 Production Station (not the sampler)
Alto 1202 mixer (essentially 8 channels with EQ and faders, not 12 as it says)
Akai APC40mkII
2x Rokit 8 speakers
You have $600AUD (that's about $380ish US) to spend, and you can sell anything and use the resale value to replace what you can.
What would you do?
I get that many would think that is enough but if absolutely HAD to do something, what would it be?
- KVRAF
- 12253 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Didn't even need to read any further. Sell it and buy a MacSchwar wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:19 am You own the following pieces of equipment and you're using them all at the moment (loving that I haven't felt I've had time/need to put the deck savers on in months):
PC
OK, but seriously, my advice would be to sell the Rokits and buy better monitors.
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Slim Phatty | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+
-
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 29 Aug, 2014 from Sydney
Any recommendations for under $1000AUD a pair?cryophonik wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:37 amDidn't even need to read any further. Sell it and buy a MacSchwar wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:19 am You own the following pieces of equipment and you're using them all at the moment (loving that I haven't felt I've had time/need to put the deck savers on in months):
PC![]()
OK, but seriously, my advice would be to sell the Rokits and buy better monitors.
- KVRAF
- 2041 posts since 15 Aug, 2012 from Australia
Go to StoreDJ or DJcity and listen to a bunch of monitors. Nobody can give you a recommendation re monitors....They're somewhat like underwear, they Have to fit the requirements AND your listening preferences....Schwar wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:51 amAny recommendations for under $1000AUD a pair?cryophonik wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:37 amDidn't even need to read any further. Sell it and buy a MacSchwar wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:19 am You own the following pieces of equipment and you're using them all at the moment (loving that I haven't felt I've had time/need to put the deck savers on in months):
PC![]()
OK, but seriously, my advice would be to sell the Rokits and buy better monitors.
I'm tired of being insane. I'm going outsane for some fresh air.
-
- KVRist
- 359 posts since 30 Apr, 2001 from Australia
I hear good things about the IK Multimedia iLoud MTM if you need something compact in that price range
Big sound, small package, thanks to DSP and mic for room correction.
Get it from Amazon prime and you get 30 days to try it out in your room - $535 per speaker
But I'm still rocking Event Opals from over 12 years ago. Been on everyday for 8 hours or more and still going strong!
Big sound, small package, thanks to DSP and mic for room correction.
Get it from Amazon prime and you get 30 days to try it out in your room - $535 per speaker
But I'm still rocking Event Opals from over 12 years ago. Been on everyday for 8 hours or more and still going strong!
-
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 29 Aug, 2014 from Sydney
Thanks for the replies guys.
And as much as I should probably take your advice right now and get better monitors (mine are nearly 15yo BTW), I really wanted a new toy for xmas so they might need to wait for the new year. It'll be at top of the list though. Should I switch to monitoring with my Technics EAH-DJ1200 headphones in the meantime?
Also, IF I was to get a new synth I see I really have three pathways:
1) A poly subtractive. I have the Virus, but it's virtual analog, I'd like something like the Deepmind 12D which is true analog.
2) A wave table synth, a WaveState or a hybrid like the Gaia2
3) An FM. The Reface DX would realise my dream of owning a DX7.
The latter two pathway though would require a lot of learning for me I must admit, so probably not that much fun out of the box.
Which would people say is harder too learn FM or wavetable? And would you say that a Deepmind can do anything a Bass Station/SH01a/TB03/JU06A could do on their own?
And as much as I should probably take your advice right now and get better monitors (mine are nearly 15yo BTW), I really wanted a new toy for xmas so they might need to wait for the new year. It'll be at top of the list though. Should I switch to monitoring with my Technics EAH-DJ1200 headphones in the meantime?
Also, IF I was to get a new synth I see I really have three pathways:
1) A poly subtractive. I have the Virus, but it's virtual analog, I'd like something like the Deepmind 12D which is true analog.
2) A wave table synth, a WaveState or a hybrid like the Gaia2
3) An FM. The Reface DX would realise my dream of owning a DX7.
The latter two pathway though would require a lot of learning for me I must admit, so probably not that much fun out of the box.
Which would people say is harder too learn FM or wavetable? And would you say that a Deepmind can do anything a Bass Station/SH01a/TB03/JU06A could do on their own?
- KVRAF
- 12253 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
I've never owned a DeepMind 12, but it sounds great in demos and really seems to be a great deal. I'd throw the Korg Minilogue XD out as another one to consider. Only 4 voices and it's technically a hybrid, since the third oscillator is digital, but that really increases its range and you can choose not to use it if/when you want a fully analog sound. I should add that the effects are digital, but they're really great IMO. I still think it's one of the best bargains in synths.
Logic Pro | LUNA Pro | OB-X8 | Prophet 6 | OB-6 | Rev2 | TEO-5 | Pro 3 | SE-1X | Minitaur | Deepmind 12D | Slim Phatty | TR-1000 | Analog RYTM mk2 | Digitakt 2 | TD-3 MO | TD-3 | Maschine+
- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
You can use osirus software for virus b.
If it were me I'd sell the speakers because I can't stand loud audio.
If it were me I'd sell the speakers because I can't stand loud audio.
The only site for experimental amp sim freeware & MIDI FX: http://runbeerrun.blogspot.com
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams
-
- KVRist
- 359 posts since 30 Apr, 2001 from Australia
Deepmind 12D - is bascially a modern 12 voice Juno 106 with extras. Can do dual stack for 6 dual DCO sounds.
With a mod matrix and good effects
So it's a good deal if you want that type of sound, but it's not a thick sounding VCO type synth
As a past owner of a Juno 106, it can't really replace a good monosynth.
It won't do the TB-303 thing
Not sure what type of music your making, as there are options in this price range for analog synths, but with a mod matrix and good effects, that narrows things down a lot.
---
For the other two options I would use software. Wavestate native is much easier to use than the hardware, but it's not a wavetable synth. Wavesequening. Modwave is what you want for Wavetables.
With a mod matrix and good effects
So it's a good deal if you want that type of sound, but it's not a thick sounding VCO type synth
As a past owner of a Juno 106, it can't really replace a good monosynth.
It won't do the TB-303 thing
Not sure what type of music your making, as there are options in this price range for analog synths, but with a mod matrix and good effects, that narrows things down a lot.
---
For the other two options I would use software. Wavestate native is much easier to use than the hardware, but it's not a wavetable synth. Wavesequening. Modwave is what you want for Wavetables.
- KVRAF
- 2041 posts since 15 Aug, 2012 from Australia
The Korg 'native' software is currently half price. I happen to have downloaded the Wavestate demo this morning.CoolColJ wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:34 am Deepmind 12D - is bascially a modern 12 voice Juno 106 with extras. Can do dual stack for 6 dual DCO sounds.
With a mod matrix and good effects
So it's a good deal if you want that type of sound, but it's not a thick sounding VCO type synth
As a past owner of a Juno 106, it can't really replace a good monosynth.
It won't do the TB-303 thing
Not sure what type of music your making, as there are options in this price range for analog synths, but with a mod matrix and good effects, that narrows things down a lot.
---
For the other two options I would use software. Wavestate native is much easier to use than the hardware, but it's not a wavetable synth. Wavesequening. Modwave is what you want for Wavetables.
I'm tired of being insane. I'm going outsane for some fresh air.
-
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 28 posts since 29 Aug, 2014 from Sydney
Getting closer to settling on the Deepmind by the daycryophonik wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:13 pm I've never owned a DeepMind 12, but it sounds great in demos and really seems to be a great deal. I'd throw the Korg Minilogue XD out as another one to consider. Only 4 voices and it's technically a hybrid, since the third oscillator is digital, but that really increases its range and you can choose not to use it if/when you want a fully analog sound. I should add that the effects are digital, but they're really great IMO. I still think it's one of the best bargains in synths.
-
- KVRAF
- 3222 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
You've got the mono bass handled so the Deepmind is a great choice. I have a Juno 60 but it rarely gets any use. The Deepmind can do the Juno sound and then some; that mod matrix and deep efx section gets it into new territory including surprisingly some sounds you'd expect to hear from a modular rig. If space is tight go for the 12D (desktop model with no keyboard). The keys on the keyboard version are average (at best) and you won't miss them if you have a good controller. Sounds like a great set up. Keep us posted.
Schwar wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:14 pmGetting closer to settling on the Deepmind by the daycryophonik wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:13 pm I've never owned a DeepMind 12, but it sounds great in demos and really seems to be a great deal. I'd throw the Korg Minilogue XD out as another one to consider. Only 4 voices and it's technically a hybrid, since the third oscillator is digital, but that really increases its range and you can choose not to use it if/when you want a fully analog sound. I should add that the effects are digital, but they're really great IMO. I still think it's one of the best bargains in synths.![]()
- KVRAF
- 18508 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I might check it out too, though I wasn’t that into the demo videos I’ve seen so far, but maybe I could bend it to my will. I really like Modwave and OPSix.werp wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:34 pmThe Korg 'native' software is currently half price. I happen to have downloaded the Wavestate demo this morning.CoolColJ wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:34 am Deepmind 12D - is bascially a modern 12 voice Juno 106 with extras. Can do dual stack for 6 dual DCO sounds.
With a mod matrix and good effects
So it's a good deal if you want that type of sound, but it's not a thick sounding VCO type synth
As a past owner of a Juno 106, it can't really replace a good monosynth.
It won't do the TB-303 thing
Not sure what type of music your making, as there are options in this price range for analog synths, but with a mod matrix and good effects, that narrows things down a lot.
---
For the other two options I would use software. Wavestate native is much easier to use than the hardware, but it's not a wavetable synth. Wavesequening. Modwave is what you want for Wavetables.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
- KVRAF
- 18508 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I really question those who are saying the Deepmind is basically a Juno 106. There’s some overlap, but I found the filter generally sounds very different. Someone asked me if I could match a Juno Alpha sound with it, and I couldn’t even get close. Not even when I had the parameters listed out for me. The filter is much harsher sounding when resonance is applied. The VCA seems to distort much sooner.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
-
- KVRAF
- 3222 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
I don't doubt your ears. I'd say the Deepmind covers the same territory but it isn't a clone of any specific Juno. I looked at the OP's question more broadly in terms of budget and expanding the palette.
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm I really question those who are saying the Deepmind is basically a Juno 106. There’s some overlap, but I found the filter generally sounds very different. Someone asked me if I could match a Juno Alpha sound with it, and I couldn’t even get close. Not even when I had the parameters listed out for me. The filter is much harsher sounding when resonance is applied. The VCA seems to distort much sooner.
