Dear lord! What has Apple done to audio in macOS 14.2? Is anybody else experiencing intermittent audio dropouts? I cannot get Live 11/12 Beta, Logic Pro or MainStage to play smoothly.
Glad I have a backup...
macOS Sonoma 14.2 audio dropouts (M1)
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 8 Jul, 2017
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- KVRAF
- 2197 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Live 11.3.13 (latest non-beta) and Sonoma 14.2.
Been making music with a friend for ours straight today with no problems a all... weird
Been making music with a friend for ours straight today with no problems a all... weird
MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I had audio that would occasionally cut out, and other issues, on 13.6. So it's not impossible it's Apple. this all abated immediately upon moving to OS 14 (beta shortly before release).
I see no reason to update from the list of improvements. ain't broke/don't fix
I see no reason to update from the list of improvements. ain't broke/don't fix
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- Banned
- 954 posts since 3 Apr, 2018
All good here 
No drop outs
No drop outs
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- KVRian
- 859 posts since 12 May, 2004
Are these dropouts occurring on the Built-in audio output, or is an external I/O involved?
On a number of Macs
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 9 Oct, 2020
I have these Issue too with an M3 and Sonoma. I'm using a RME Babyface FS Pro and I have erratic drop outs in Ableton. CPU usage is low. With Built-in Audio from the Mac there are no drop outs. So I think the the RME driver has trouble with Sonoma. And this with both the Driverkit Driver and the Kernel Extension Driver.
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- KVRAF
- 1616 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
No problem with M3 Max and Ableton and RME Babyface Pro FS. Which version of Ableton are you running? I got 11.3.13 and most recent Beta 12.hell-g wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2024 1:55 pm I have these Issue too with an M3 and Sonoma. I'm using a RME Babyface FS Pro and I have erratic drop outs in Ableton. CPU usage is low. With Built-in Audio from the Mac there are no drop outs. So I think the the RME driver has trouble with Sonoma. And this with both the Driverkit Driver and the Kernel Extension Driver.
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- KVRAF
- 1616 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
You flashed the most recent firmware on the Babyface Pro itself?
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- KVRAF
- 1616 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
Kontakt 7 and it´s working just fine here. Just upgraded to Komplete 14 last week so i played around with Kontakt 7 and the new banks a lot, so i can say for sure it´s running without any hiccup here.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I looked around pertaining to this question. It's appeared here before; this specific one looks Ableton-centric (& with teh RME audio card).
Elsewhere, I had the same stupid problem on MacOS 14.2 as I did on 13.6 but don't with beta 14.3. You can't take that anecdote to the bank or anywhere, I don't know enough to blame Apple or Steinberg or VSL but my projects develop corruption and become unusable only when Cubase 12 or 13 connects to VE Pro in all-silicon modes. The earlier symptom was "the audio hardware has been removed" (even when built-in was selected which makes the statement of error useless) and here it starts. Take VEP out of the equation and projects don't do it. But the crash back trace is all Cubase (or really basic Apple processes).
Elsewhere, I had the same stupid problem on MacOS 14.2 as I did on 13.6 but don't with beta 14.3. You can't take that anecdote to the bank or anywhere, I don't know enough to blame Apple or Steinberg or VSL but my projects develop corruption and become unusable only when Cubase 12 or 13 connects to VE Pro in all-silicon modes. The earlier symptom was "the audio hardware has been removed" (even when built-in was selected which makes the statement of error useless) and here it starts. Take VEP out of the equation and projects don't do it. But the crash back trace is all Cubase (or really basic Apple processes).
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 11 Dec, 2023
I have aswell some dropouts problem: Macbook Air M1 und Arturia Minifuse 1. The sound in headphones randomly drops for couple of seconds and one can here some clicky sounds. Don't know if the problem is Minifuse to Mac connection or some driver problem on mac.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
from the keywords "Macbook Air M1 and Arturia Minifuse 1" at google, instantly in hit #1 are five Reddits threads containing all terms... with questions
The 'audio hardware has been removed' situation has ended. I can't say why, other than the way Cubase on a Macbook relates to using the onboard audio driver changed at some point. At one time, an aggregate device had to be created because Cubase couldn't deal straight with onboard audio.
AND, it used to be that switching drivers for non-Cubase use ie., onboard vs audio interface was seamless. At some point I began making sure that the audio interface was set to be the system output before launching Cubase. I can only assume something about switching corrupted project after project. Now, I don't have to select the device first, Cubase will in this case prompt 'found new drivers' with a radio button to select it. I'm not going to f**k around though, still going to select it first. I doubt I'll ever understand this.
The 'audio hardware has been removed' situation has ended. I can't say why, other than the way Cubase on a Macbook relates to using the onboard audio driver changed at some point. At one time, an aggregate device had to be created because Cubase couldn't deal straight with onboard audio.
AND, it used to be that switching drivers for non-Cubase use ie., onboard vs audio interface was seamless. At some point I began making sure that the audio interface was set to be the system output before launching Cubase. I can only assume something about switching corrupted project after project. Now, I don't have to select the device first, Cubase will in this case prompt 'found new drivers' with a radio button to select it. I'm not going to f**k around though, still going to select it first. I doubt I'll ever understand this.