Is GForce OB-X a better emulation than Repro?

[audiouser720]

Hi and welcome to this very stupid thread. The question is for those who have hands on experience with the hardware synths these emulate.

I have P5 rev4 and also Repro so I can compare myself. I’m not blown away to be frank but I appreciate that Repro emulates an earlier revision which I have no experience with. What I am not blown away with in the plugin is the extremes like audio rate modulation.

So, would you say that OB-X is a better emulation to the original Oberheim than Repro to the Prophet rev3? I hope someone who has the hardware can chime in. I’m trying to decide if I should throw some cash away whilst OB-X is on sale.

[seafire]

Does it matter? Do you like the sound?

[audiouser720]

Does it matter? Do you like the sound?

F**k knows lol, stupid 6 hours demo limitation wasn’t enough to decide in my case. That’s why I am asking I guess. And to be fair, it does matter to me.

[seafire]

I only ask because the accuracy would only matter to me if I was looking for a direct replacement. If you are not, ir may not affect your opinion on the sound quality etc

[egbert101]

Does it matter? Do you like the sound?

Obviously it matters. It's the entire point of emulations.

[chk071]

I don't know how well they emulate their analog counterparts, but, the Gforce sounds like a soft synth to me. Sorry for that well-worn phrase, but, I really can't describe it better. I miss the stuff the better emulations do to model the "flaws", or rather the pleasant stuff in analogs. I don't hear a lot of drift, I don't hear a lot of voice variation, I don't hear a lot of saturation (which, I understand, is pretty variating in analogs too), I don't hear a lot of volume drift. It sounds too clean/clinical to my golden ears.

U-he's stuff on the other hand, it does all that, so it sounds more lively to me. If anything, then Urs somehow seems to have a bit of an affinity for less warm analog sound. What I always notice is that u-he's plugins sound a bit cold compared to the real warm stuff (Moog, Oberheim etc.). Even when they model an Oberheim filter, like in Diva, it sounds kinda cold to me.

[chk071]

And now, go demo both synths, instead of listening to the professional influencers here.

[Lbdunequest]

And how does Rev 4 hardware compare to Repro 5? have you tried different filters inside Repro? you can switch up to 4 filter characters and 4 oscillators

[chk071]

I have P5 rev4 and also Repro so I can compare myself. I’m not blown away to be frank but I appreciate that Repro emulates an earlier revision which I have no experience with. What I am not blown away with in the plugin is the extremes like audio rate modulation.

If you ask me, software will always lose when you compare stuff like that. I also have yet to hear a soft synth which does oscillator sync as well sounding as some analogs. On most soft synths, it sounds downright lame.

[egbert101]

Best I could do was to listen to a youtube video of a real OB-X, and comparing various emulations I found that (GForce) OB-X and (2DaT/DiscoDSP) Obxd came closest to the real thing. However, the new OB-X8 is practically identical to a vintage OB-X, so buy that instead if you really care about absolute 1:1 detail. Of course, that's just as silly as buying a software emulation.

[audiouser720]

And how does Rev 4 hardware compare to Repro 5? have you tried different filters inside Repro? you can switch up to 4 filter characters and 4 oscillators

Yeah I know I know. I have no issues with the filters that much. Round is my favourite; prefer it to the default poly. Like I said it’s the extremes. Audio rate modulation sounds a bit meh. It obviously sounds gorgeous on the hardware. But like Massive X audio modulation sound eerie close to what I hear on hardware, so I know it’s possible to achieve better.

[audiouser720]

I don't know how well they emulate their analog counterparts, but, the Gforce sounds like a soft synth to me. Sorry for that well-worn phrase, but, I really can't describe it better. I miss the stuff the better emulations do to model the "flaws", or rather the pleasant stuff in analogs. I don't hear a lot of drift, I don't hear a lot of voice variation, I don't hear a lot of saturation (which, I understand, is pretty variating in analogs too), I don't hear a lot of volume drift. It sounds too clean/clinical to my golden ears.

U-he's stuff on the other hand, it does all that, so it sounds more lively to me. If anything, then Urs somehow seems to have a bit of an affinity for less warm analog sound. What I always notice is that u-he's plugins sound a bit cold compared to the real warm stuff (Moog, Oberheim etc.). Even when they model an Oberheim filter, like in Diva, it sounds kinda cold to me.

I get what you are saying, but I was wondering if the real OB-X is like that. I have never touched a real Oberheim and YouTube is meh. Once I saw an 8 voice in a freaking wild animals museum (can you imagine, how random), enclosed in a display. My partner was having to pull me away after I while. I was just standing there screaming, making weird noises, couldn’t believe my eyes. Everyone was watching us. I was out of my mind. Probably she got scared and thought I was going to have an orgasm or something but I couldn’t help myself. We haven’t returned to that museum ever since then lol. To ad to it, the museum is called the Horniman Museum in London. Lol. Can you imagine . I get why they call it horniman. Put an 8 voice in for the men… There you go.

[chk071]

Pick one:

[chk071]

Anyway, if you like the real deal, like has been said, getting the OB-X8 is probably the best choice, if you have the money.

[audiouser720]

Anyway, if you like the real deal, like has been said, getting the OB-X8 is probably the best choice, if you have the money.

Lol. That’s cute! It’s Christmas here… Having money after buying all the presents is a utopian dream ahahaha. But yeah. I wish I could try one in real life. There are no music stores anymore. What a shame. You can only order online and send back if don’t like it, but that’s a bit meh as far as I am concerned.