Discovery Pro synthesizer 6.4 to 8.0 REBOOT
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- KVRist
- 153 posts since 1 Nov, 2018
From discoDSP....
It has become apparent that the current state of the forum, with its mix of trolls, detractors, and unmoderated content, is hindering constructive dialogue and negatively impacting development. To foster a more productive environment and aim for meaningful discussions, we have decided to publish new releases in dedicated threads. This approach aims to mitigate these challenges and encourage a focus on constructive feedback and positive engagement.
He then locked the thread. Obviously there was a lot of negative feedback after the release of 8 and one of the last posts by user hurricaneaudiolab, who went out of his way to compare presets from 7.9 and 8 and found zero difference should be talked about IMO. Hopefully this thread can remain 'unmoderated'.
It has become apparent that the current state of the forum, with its mix of trolls, detractors, and unmoderated content, is hindering constructive dialogue and negatively impacting development. To foster a more productive environment and aim for meaningful discussions, we have decided to publish new releases in dedicated threads. This approach aims to mitigate these challenges and encourage a focus on constructive feedback and positive engagement.
He then locked the thread. Obviously there was a lot of negative feedback after the release of 8 and one of the last posts by user hurricaneaudiolab, who went out of his way to compare presets from 7.9 and 8 and found zero difference should be talked about IMO. Hopefully this thread can remain 'unmoderated'.
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- KVRAF
- 12083 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Yup, talking about fanning the flames...if they thought it was bad before!
I had posted very early in the thread before the (very good) YT Video that I could hear no difference at all on decent monitor speakers in a treated room etc- I did the 'slow resonate filter sweep' test as normally if I can hear anything its using that method.
The update seems to be just a bunch of tweaks that for most users seem to make no difference, they just wont sell any updates in that case, that's all. Trying top charge a lot of money for it doesn't make DSP look great, but look at it this way- 7.9 is just as good, you are missing nothing so saving money!
PS- Calling your unhappy customers 'trolls' doesn't seem smart, the only people on the thread were DSP 'customers' annoyed by the cost of the update. If people are complaining they still care, when it all goes quite you have a real problem...
I had posted very early in the thread before the (very good) YT Video that I could hear no difference at all on decent monitor speakers in a treated room etc- I did the 'slow resonate filter sweep' test as normally if I can hear anything its using that method.
The update seems to be just a bunch of tweaks that for most users seem to make no difference, they just wont sell any updates in that case, that's all. Trying top charge a lot of money for it doesn't make DSP look great, but look at it this way- 7.9 is just as good, you are missing nothing so saving money!
PS- Calling your unhappy customers 'trolls' doesn't seem smart, the only people on the thread were DSP 'customers' annoyed by the cost of the update. If people are complaining they still care, when it all goes quite you have a real problem...
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- Banned
- 197 posts since 22 Aug, 2023
Hey discodsp i don't receive the mail with the 6 digit to download the plugins!
**dark music for dark lovers**
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
TBH, I can understand him, after all the insults and abusive behavior.
Maybe he shouldn't participate here at all. Might be the better option than to fight with people who are obviously out to destroy his livelihood. Funny how some people here always act like they're the most philanthropic people ever, and then show no mercy in defiling one man businesses which struggle to survive. In general, TBH, I don't know a place on the net where so many assholes reside as here. Probably because the moderators do shit to prevent it.
Or maybe he should do like the Tone2 dev. Complain about how cruel and evil life was to him. Maybe that will help with these "philanthropic" assholes.
Maybe he shouldn't participate here at all. Might be the better option than to fight with people who are obviously out to destroy his livelihood. Funny how some people here always act like they're the most philanthropic people ever, and then show no mercy in defiling one man businesses which struggle to survive. In general, TBH, I don't know a place on the net where so many assholes reside as here. Probably because the moderators do shit to prevent it.
Or maybe he should do like the Tone2 dev. Complain about how cruel and evil life was to him. Maybe that will help with these "philanthropic" assholes.
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gaggle of hermits gaggle of hermits https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=521655
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
maybe you can cite some of these "insults". seems to me it was George throwing them around rather than anyone else. this isn't his first rodeo where he moans about "trolls" and "abuse" while dishing it out wherever he can. I've got a bunch of his stuff but he sure doesn't help himself.
this bit from vurt from an earlier time remains evergreen:
the cloud sub was another winning idea that saw George dig his heels in...before quietly shelving the idea.
this bit from vurt from an earlier time remains evergreen:
from: viewtopic.php?t=525951&start=30i dont see the issue?
you have money.
george wants money.
seems like a good deal to me...
the cloud sub was another winning idea that saw George dig his heels in...before quietly shelving the idea.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
You're called a troll if you:
A) Moan about the ridiculous 'upgrade' price (from 7-8).
B) Call out rude customer service behavior by the discoDSP drone.
C) Questioning the 'huge' upgrade in sound quality that several people said they couldn't hear.
D) Or say the 'huge' update is pretty bereft of features considering the price.
E) Or were not blown away by the demo song.
F) And you may not be a legitimate customer and probably just joined the thread to be a meanie (that one didn't work out too well as we all have multiple receipts).
A) Moan about the ridiculous 'upgrade' price (from 7-8).
B) Call out rude customer service behavior by the discoDSP drone.
C) Questioning the 'huge' upgrade in sound quality that several people said they couldn't hear.
D) Or say the 'huge' update is pretty bereft of features considering the price.
E) Or were not blown away by the demo song.
F) And you may not be a legitimate customer and probably just joined the thread to be a meanie (that one didn't work out too well as we all have multiple receipts).
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. 
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
And neither did I when I tried to get the latest installers. And I even sent in a query to their customer service, but I never even got a reply.gelly-vapor wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:11 am Hey discodsp i don't receive the mail with the 6 digit to download the plugins!
Good customer service or what!?
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. 
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gaggle of hermits gaggle of hermits https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=521655
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
this is a problem with using email as a method for 2FA (or rather the only method for 2FA). sometimes they bounce off the receiving server for whatever reason and don't even make it to the spamtrap. those mails do get sent out (or at least I get mine) but techniques like greylisting can mean they never get through.Robmobius wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:33 amAnd neither did I when I tried to get the latest installers. And I even sent in a query to their customer service, but I never even got a reply.gelly-vapor wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:11 am Hey discodsp i don't receive the mail with the 6 digit to download the plugins!
Good customer service or what!?![]()
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
It's a ridiculous system, sadly.gaggle of hermits wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:37 amthis is a problem with using email as a method for 2FA (or rather the only method for 2FA). sometimes they bounce off the receiving server for whatever reason and don't even make it to the spamtrap. those mails do get sent out (or at least I get mine) but techniques like greylisting can mean they never get through.Robmobius wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:33 amAnd neither did I when I tried to get the latest installers. And I even sent in a query to their customer service, but I never even got a reply.gelly-vapor wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:11 am Hey discodsp i don't receive the mail with the 6 digit to download the plugins!
Good customer service or what!?![]()
Not having a personal user area is a tad archaic and somewhat bewildering. What if someone's email is updated or some such?
I wonder if they even check their customer service inbox at all? I mean, I'm still waiting for a reply. LOL
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. 
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
You know where to put your money. Why do you need to complain about it all day long? Is that how you solve your problems in the real world? By complaining all day long? That never solved any problem. It creates problems.wvshpr wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:55 amSo slapping a new version number on the same code and charging a "royalty" update price that is half of the price of new license is ok? How can one NOT complain about that? It's insane.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:32 am You guys only see your side.
Also a very common problem on this site.
Actually, keeping your wallet in your pocket is a MUCH better point to make than to complain on an internet forum. Actually, it's the ONLY point to make. Some people here just don't understand that, and never will. And, mostly, it isn't about that anyway. It's to agitate, and pull others in the negative vortex. That's fun, and you feel like you have power.
"Come on guys. Let's destroy this evil guy and his greedy company!". That's what most of this actually translates to.
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- KVRAF
- 2311 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Wondering if their mail service is down - Out of interest I just tried to log in to the members section, and it asks me for the 6 digit code as usual. Normally I get an automated email within seconds, but 10 minutes later still nothing.Robmobius wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:33 amAnd neither did I when I tried to get the latest installers. And I even sent in a query to their customer service, but I never even got a reply.gelly-vapor wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:11 am Hey discodsp i don't receive the mail with the 6 digit to download the plugins!
EDIT: Verification email code just come through after half an hour, but due to the delay the code is no longer valid
EDIT 2: Looks like the validation emails are now coming through again correctly/instantly
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gaggle of hermits gaggle of hermits https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=521655
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
it's possible they've replied but the emails are getting bounced the same way. I can't say I've emailed disco a lot but I think they've always replied.Robmobius wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:58 am It's a ridiculous system, sadly.
Not having a personal user area is a tad archaic and somewhat bewildering. What if someone's email is updated or some such?![]()
I wonder if they even check their customer service inbox at all? I mean, I'm still waiting for a reply. LOL
the trouble is there's no backup system to deal with situations where email isn't working. a simple chat system on the site would do the job.
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gaggle of hermits gaggle of hermits https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=521655
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
so you think people who are complaining are spending the money instead of withholding it? errr....ok.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:06 pm Actually, keeping your wallet in your pocket is a MUCH better point to make than to complain on an internet forum. Actually, it's the ONLY point to make. Some people here just don't understand that, and never will. And, mostly, it isn't about that anyway. It's to agitate, and pull others in the negative vortex. That's fun, and you feel like you have power.
in your head maybe. in the real world, not so much."Come on guys. Let's destroy this evil guy and his greedy company!". That's what most of this actually translates to.
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Honestly? I wouldn't be at all surprised if they did. That's how I know it from other software, or hardware. I frequent an Android forum where people complain about every single flagship type phone which enters the market... and still buy every year's iteration of it.gaggle of hermits wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:16 pmso you think people who are complaining are spending the money instead of withholding it? errr....ok.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:06 pm Actually, keeping your wallet in your pocket is a MUCH better point to make than to complain on an internet forum. Actually, it's the ONLY point to make. Some people here just don't understand that, and never will. And, mostly, it isn't about that anyway. It's to agitate, and pull others in the negative vortex. That's fun, and you feel like you have power.
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- KVRAF
- 2048 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Germany
And why do YOU care at all?chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:06 pmYou know where to put your money. Why do you need to complain about it all day long? Is that how you solve your problems in the real world? By complaining all day long? That never solved any problem. It creates problems.wvshpr wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:55 amSo slapping a new version number on the same code and charging a "royalty" update price that is half of the price of new license is ok? How can one NOT complain about that? It's insane.chk071 wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:32 am You guys only see your side.
Also a very common problem on this site.
Actually, keeping your wallet in your pocket is a MUCH better point to make than to complain on an internet forum. Actually, it's the ONLY point to make. Some people here just don't understand that, and never will. And, mostly, it isn't about that anyway. It's to agitate, and pull others in the negative vortex. That's fun, and you feel like you have power.
"Come on guys. Let's destroy this evil guy and his greedy company!". That's what most of this actually translates to.
