Trying to use a bass sequence from Scaler 2
Just clicking anything that says bass because the SCaler menus are just way over my limited brain span.
So I choose a rock sequence from the bass section,hit the scaler kb and it plays the sequence which I have routed to Mojo Bass.
So I use the same note in Cubase and it just plays the one note,argh.
Then I see the Scaler 2 pattern thingy at the bottom and think I should move the bass sequence to a pattern but I have no clue how too.
Every time I open this plugin ,I get a severe headache.
Just no intuitive to me at all.
If you are SUPER BRAINY,yes it's great but for me,It's overwhelming and I have watched multitudes of you tube tuts on Scaler 2 but the plug in just does not work for me on a conscious level.
Everything is so confusing.
Was thinking of just maybe using the sequencer in Sampletank 4.
At least I know what I'm doing in that.
P.S. I think Mojo Bass 2 has a built in sequencer but a bit pricey at the moment sigh.
Scaler 2,I never use it.
The headaches come on as soon as I look at the GUI.
Now Scaler 2 is not playing the sequence at all.
Probably pressed a button I don't know about.
Are there plugins that deal with bass line sequencers that I can route to an instrument besides the impossible Scaler 2?
Scaler 2 is the most confusing plugin I have ever used
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- KVRAF
- 5377 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
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- KVRist
- 399 posts since 22 Mar, 2006 from Netherlands
Mixed in key still has a 50% sale with the 'HOLIDAYS'
look at:
Captain Epic
Pilot (?)
If you're not into house/techno, maybe the Pop Foundation is best suited?
I'm beginner at these 'scale apps', can't really advice more. But both Captain and pilot should be quite a bit more easy to grasp, Captain being the bigger brother of Pilot.
I bought Captain yesterday. Haven't used yet
look at:
Captain Epic
Pilot (?)
If you're not into house/techno, maybe the Pop Foundation is best suited?
I'm beginner at these 'scale apps', can't really advice more. But both Captain and pilot should be quite a bit more easy to grasp, Captain being the bigger brother of Pilot.
I bought Captain yesterday. Haven't used yet
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- KVRian
- 1104 posts since 11 Dec, 2020
https://venomode.com/phraseboxSmasha wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:39 am Are there plugins that deal with bass line sequencers that I can route to an instrument besides the impossible Scaler 2?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 402 posts since 4 Jun, 2010
Scaler 2 is buggy.
Sometimes it plays the bass sequence and other times there is silence if you adjust to another sequence.
The Bass Pop sequence 6 does not play in Cubase.
I have Scaler set to an instrument channel and my midi KB as the input and another Instrument Channel set with Scaler's output as the midi input and Mojo Bass as the output.
Now when I make a 1 bar midi note in Cubase,there is no sound.
So I decided to play the bass sequence by pressing play at the bottom left and record to capture the midi.
Then the drag icon appears.
When I try to drag the midi in,there is a red circle with a cross over it ,Cubase telling me I can't drag Scalers midi sequence into the track.
WTF??????
Everytime I use Scaler,I cop this crap.
Hate it.
It's so unintuitive.
Will save up for Mojo Bass 2 and use it's built in sequencer and use Cubase chord pads and other tools for chord ideas.
Scaler is just a mindfuck.
P.S. A lightbulb went up in my mind.
Is it because Cubase is set at 96k I am having these issues?
Going to set back to 48k and try again.
My Audient sound card has these random little crackles every now and again which pee me off too.
Dam,need a Fireface sigh.
The midi capture of Scaler,does not capture all the notes played after dragging in (I worked that out by dragging into a Cubase track,not inside the midi item lol duh)
Just a mess to work with Scaler 2.
And what on Earth does "Bind incoming midi notes to chord triggers" do????
Way too many frills that just getting a simple sequence from a bass is a chore.
Sometimes it plays the bass sequence and other times there is silence if you adjust to another sequence.
The Bass Pop sequence 6 does not play in Cubase.
I have Scaler set to an instrument channel and my midi KB as the input and another Instrument Channel set with Scaler's output as the midi input and Mojo Bass as the output.
Now when I make a 1 bar midi note in Cubase,there is no sound.
So I decided to play the bass sequence by pressing play at the bottom left and record to capture the midi.
Then the drag icon appears.
When I try to drag the midi in,there is a red circle with a cross over it ,Cubase telling me I can't drag Scalers midi sequence into the track.
WTF??????
Everytime I use Scaler,I cop this crap.
Hate it.
It's so unintuitive.
Will save up for Mojo Bass 2 and use it's built in sequencer and use Cubase chord pads and other tools for chord ideas.
Scaler is just a mindfuck.
P.S. A lightbulb went up in my mind.
Is it because Cubase is set at 96k I am having these issues?
Going to set back to 48k and try again.
My Audient sound card has these random little crackles every now and again which pee me off too.
Dam,need a Fireface sigh.
The midi capture of Scaler,does not capture all the notes played after dragging in (I worked that out by dragging into a Cubase track,not inside the midi item lol duh)
Just a mess to work with Scaler 2.
And what on Earth does "Bind incoming midi notes to chord triggers" do????
Way too many frills that just getting a simple sequence from a bass is a chore.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 402 posts since 4 Jun, 2010
The Midi capture is broken in Scaler 2.
The Bass rhythm is {1 e and} {2 e and} {and} {4 e and}.
So I capture it and then drag into Cubase as a midi item.
What Cubase plays is just the ands of each beat.
WTF?????
The Bass rhythm is {1 e and} {2 e and} {and} {4 e and}.
So I capture it and then drag into Cubase as a midi item.
What Cubase plays is just the ands of each beat.
WTF?????
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- KVRist
- 36 posts since 1 Jan, 2023
I use Scaler 2 because I'm stupid and lazy, it's great.Smasha wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:39 am Every time I open this plugin ,I get a severe headache.
Just no intuitive to me at all.
If you are SUPER BRAINY,yes it's great
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- KVRian
- 1155 posts since 9 Apr, 2012
Scaler 2 works fine here. No problems at all. MIDI capture works fine for me, keybinding works like a charme. Tbh I don’t understand the majority of your post about Scaler2.
If it’s buggy for you then get in contact with the support. And Scaler 2 has it’s own forum.
Maybe you should ask your questions there:
https://forum.scalerplugin.com/
If it’s buggy for you then get in contact with the support. And Scaler 2 has it’s own forum.
Maybe you should ask your questions there:
https://forum.scalerplugin.com/
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- KVRAF
- 8037 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
User error?
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- KVRian
- 595 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from not where I want to be...
This one made me buy it a while ago:gjunk wrote: Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:18 am I was recently looking into scaler 2 and thought it was a bit confusing too. If anyone has a YouTube video they could recommend please share
But checkout the whole playlist.
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- KVRAF
- 5912 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
That's right, Scaler 2 is a bit confusing and the structure often seems illogical. Without watching a few videos, you won't get any further here. But it can be really useful e.g. to find parallel keys that fit (with this circle of fifths) including suggestions how to change from the current key to this key. However, the idea of using the other modules to generate melody, bass etc. at the same time did not convince me.
The alternative would be Captain Chords... much easier to use but also (IMO!) much less helpful. Scaler is better once you understand how it works.
The alternative would be Captain Chords... much easier to use but also (IMO!) much less helpful. Scaler is better once you understand how it works.
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- KVRist
- 65 posts since 8 Oct, 2023
This is great thank you
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- KVRian
- 772 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside
Given your previous posts and comments, you seem to be struggling with all the most basic tasks. Perhaps software and computers just aren't your thing? Maybe the main issue here isn't everyone and everything else?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 402 posts since 4 Jun, 2010
I stand by my words.
This plugin is so unintuitive.\
It's the different confusing menus all bunched togther at the top.
How do you press a key to play chords and then use the right hand to play the melody of that chord?
Pretty much hit every menu tab and this option refuses to show up.
I never use Scaler 2 because the GUI is a mess.
I could use Chord Pads in Cubase!!!
Get there in a quarter of the time without rummaging around in Scalers confusing menu.
This plugin is so unintuitive.\
It's the different confusing menus all bunched togther at the top.
How do you press a key to play chords and then use the right hand to play the melody of that chord?
Pretty much hit every menu tab and this option refuses to show up.
I never use Scaler 2 because the GUI is a mess.
I could use Chord Pads in Cubase!!!
Get there in a quarter of the time without rummaging around in Scalers confusing menu.