What software can actually pull THIS?

[leandrusi]

Hello people, Im looking for a software that can separate the different instruments of a song.
I know in recent years there has been a boom in these kind of applications, but the ones I have or know are all dedicated to separating main vocals from band, so theres always vocals+bass+drums+"instruments" or "others".
I actually need those "others". That ONE track named "instrument" often consist on various instruments like guitars, keys, synths, strings, brasses and whatever except bass and drums and I need to isolate them.
For example, say theres a song with vocals, bass, drums and also guitar, piano and strings. Every app or software I know will isolate vocals, bass and drums into 3 independent tracks and merge piano, guitar and strings into 1 track. Well I need the piano, guitar and strings into 3 different tracks too, anyone know a way to achieve this?
Hope you can help me, Il be waiting for your kind replies. Thanks in advance!!

[eLawnMust]

The best you can use is your own EAR!... Simply train your ear like oldskool then you can pick out all the parts no need for BS software that won't work anyway... Back in the 70's spent many hours playing to records, time well spent... Seems like these days most can't pick out simple lullaby melodies...

[biomechanoid]

Try: https://hitnmix.com/ripx-daw/

[jules99]

your own EAR!.

I love how you can always depend on the boomers and their "why don't you do it yourself like we did back in the day when we rolled tape by hand, chopped wood for our guitars, and masturbated in a circle of fifths".

Back on topic: It looks like lalal.ai has started offering much more detailed stem separation, so you might have some luck with that.

Just know that there is a technical reason why separating anything besides drums, voice, and bass, is going to be and stay glitchy and error-ridden for a while. Pianos, guitars, and synths generally play in similar frequency ranges, or often loaded with effects and thus washed out in ways that current algorithms have a lot of trouble with.

[leandrusi]

The best you can use is your own EAR!... Simply train your ear like oldskool then you can pick out all the parts no need for BS software that won't work anyway... Back in the 70's spent many hours playing to records, time well spent... Seems like these days most can't pick out simple lullaby melodies...

Hi! thanks for replying! I didnt mention what my purpose was and maybe you then thought that way. Believe me, I can pick up a lullaby, I dont need to isolate tracks for that.
I need it for educational purposes, I want to be able to mute keys or guitar tracks from many songs and I dont have the time to record them myself as I used to, I need to do it on MANY songs. So a software that could manage that in just minutes would be ideal.
I agree the best thing to pick out parts is a good melodic and harmonic ear training, though.

[leandrusi]

Try: https://hitnmix.com/ripx-daw/

Yes I have ripX! I love it but like Ive already said, it doesnt separates instruments other than drum and bass. Or maybe I cant make it to and need to tweek it more? If you know you tell me

[leandrusi]

your own EAR!.

I love how you can always depend on the boomers and their "why don't you do it yourself like we did back in the day when we rolled tape by hand, chopped wood for our guitars, and masturbated in a circle of fifths".

Back on topic: It looks like lalal.ai has started offering much more detailed stem separation, so you might have some luck with that.

Just know that there is a technical reason why separating anything besides drums, voice, and bass, is going to be and stay glitchy and error-ridden for a while. Pianos, guitars, and synths generally play in similar frequency ranges, or often loaded with effects and thus washed out in ways that current algorithms have a lot of trouble with.

LOL
Im sure he replied in good faith, were all gonna be somewhat like that in the future, I totally see myself going: "back in our day we used to actually study music and use our hands to play actual instruments and use computers in order to make music, you lazy brats!"
Ill check lalal then, I think I already bumped into it some time ago though, but still. Thanks man!

[biomechanoid]

Try: https://hitnmix.com/ripx-daw/

Yes I have ripX! I love it but like Ive already said, it doesnt separates instruments other than drum and bass. Or maybe I cant make it to and need to tweek it more? If you know you tell me

Hmmm... OK. Last time I used it I'm sure I was able to separate more than bass, drums and vocals, but maybe that was to do with the particular track I was using... don't think I did anything special with settings.

[mdx4ever]

Have you tried Melodyne?
https://www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/what-is-melodyne

[osiris]

Bandlab has a great free splitter.

[DanielAyo]

SpectraLayers 11 (releasing this month June 2024) can unmix up to 11 components: https://divideconcept.github.io/Unmix-Comparison/

[jonljacobi]

your own EAR!.

I love how you can always depend on the boomers and their "why don't you do it yourself like we did back in the day when we rolled tape by hand, chopped wood for our guitars, and masturbated in a circle of fifths".

Back on topic: It looks like lalal.ai has started offering much more detailed stem separation, so you might have some luck with that.

Just know that there is a technical reason why separating anything besides drums, voice, and bass, is going to be and stay glitchy and error-ridden for a while. Pianos, guitars, and synths generally play in similar frequency ranges, or often loaded with effects and thus washed out in ways that current algorithms have a lot of trouble with.

And I love how you just casually dismiss the advice on garnering greater satisfaction through developing skills, then use "boomer" as a pejorative. That said, this isn't a skill I think is particularly creative unless you're an engineer so f**k it and use the automated software.

Logic just acquired this ability, and it works fairly well. But as noted, certain instruments are easily extract-able while others are not due to their tonal similarity.

Not mentioned so far... RX 11 has the ability under the function Music Rebalance/Stem Split, and also is a very good editor should you have the desire to actually try it manually. I've only used it for repair.

[Ah_Dziz]

If you can name all the instruments used you'll have a better chance. "Vocals" for instance have lots of distinct features that are only found in vocals for the most part. Same with "drums" "bass" etc. You need to be able to tell an algorithm what you want to pull out and it needs to know what to look for. With the current "state of the art" I'd recommend pulling out the vocals, bass drums and instruments, then reloading just the "instruments" into the separation software and seeing where you can get with that approach. All these procedures are iterative so if you have a clean stem of what's left after pulling the "main" bits, you might have a good chance provided the rest of the tracks don't contain tons of unison notes.

[Teilchenbeschleuniger]

For your specific need to isolate individual instruments within a mixed track, you might want to check out software like Spleeter by Deezer or Izotope's RX.

These programs use sophisticated algorithms to split audio tracks into separate stems. Spleeter, for instance, can separate tracks into up to five stems, which might help you isolate those additional instruments more effectively.

While these tools are powerful, they aren't perfect and might require some manual adjustments for best results. This process can sometimes be as detailed and nuanced as automate data entry from text, where precision and specific conditions need to be defined to ensure accuracy. Both fields benefit from advanced algorithms to handle complex tasks efficiently, saving time and increasing productivity.

[gainstage]

Song Master can isolate stems and make it a neat tool for practicing and learning new songs.