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I haven't checked here for a while, it's become quite good. I'd say it's the best tracker, even better than renoise. It really is a mind-blowing bit of code, especially when you consider the fact that it's free on PC, it's a full blown studio that's very capable, and light on the CPU. A new version just came out, every year it gets better and better.

Hopefully I've turned someone on to something they didn't know about before, if you've used trackers in the past but never tried SunVox there's never been a better time. Or even if you haven't used trackers, and are sick of the VST game and want something that's all-in-one... You can design your own instruments and effects in it, or use other peoples, a lot is included with the DL, the community is generous with sharing what they've made. It's FM synthesis capabilities are virtually limitless, that's one thing that you won't see in anything that's not modular, and some that is. It has basically a version of PadSynth built in, that's a really cool feature. It's different from what you're likely used, and doesn't have wavetable synthesis but that's basically it. I'm going to start diving into physical modeling with it soon, I'm going to try my best to take inspiration from Noisy 2, it's a great synth and it would be awesome if I could get similar sounds out of SunVox. I'll have to see, I'm not sure my knowledge is up to par but that's an opportunity!

Anyway, enjoy the software if this is the first you've heard of it, if you are currently a SunVox user please say hi, I'd like to see how many of us are here :)
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SunVox is just brilliant. While Renoise still might have an edge here and there as the overall Tracker, as an Instrument SunVox certainly rules. Cool to see it just has been updated too!
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SunVox and Renoise need to get a room and make babies. Imagine the two together... Renoise's sampler and VST support, the modular playground of SunVox. I can only dream (about the outcome, not the two getting a room).

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I've used it in the past, It has become quite a powerful 'closed in' tracker...

But for me I never liked the way WAVs sounded through it & don't care for the way the pattern editor is setup... For a closed in tracker I prefer Protrekkr, Probably a better way if you like sample-based running through internal FX...

Plus it has up to 16 note lanes per track & 4 FX lanes per track which can be collapsed when not needing to edit-

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And it has dual 303s just like original NoiseTrekker2 they sound great-

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Protrekkr is regular updated too I got a thread over at the SunVox Forum-

https://warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7021

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I think Sunvox is cool, but I am waiting for Renoise 3.5.

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Renoise already has enough crammed into it...

Here is a couple SunVox fan wallpapers I made a year or so ago-

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mirDR wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:57 pm SunVox and Renoise need to get a room and make babies. Imagine the two together... Renoise's sampler and VST support, the modular playground of SunVox. I can only dream (about the outcome, not the two getting a room).
That would be a wet dream come true!
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eLawnMust wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 9:20 pm I've used it in the past, It has become quite a powerful 'closed in' tracker...

But for me I never liked the way WAVs sounded through it & don't care for the way the pattern editor is setup... For a closed in tracker I prefer Protrekkr, Probably a better way if you like sample-based running through internal FX...

Plus it has up to 16 note lanes per track & 4 FX lanes per track which can be collapsed when not needing to edit-

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And it has dual 303s just like original NoiseTrekker2 they sound great-

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Protrekkr is regular updated too I got a thread over at the SunVox Forum-

https://warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7021
Protrekkr was my first tracker. I was so in love with it. But unfortunately hitchhikr accidentally broke the synthesizer and no one will fix it. Env 1 & 2 shouldn't be hardwired to osc amp 1 & 2, if you go look at noistrekker 1-3 it's not that way. It completely ruins the synth for me and the only way I would use it would be with osc one set to sampler instrument and osc two doing nothing. If that would be fixed and the sampler could record I'd pay for that software. I've sent messages to people claiming to be maintaining or forking the software but got crickets.
But hitchhikr did so much right with that tracker, it's design and workflow are phenomenal. I was upset when he increased the resolution, I wish he would have made it optional I liked the low res look so much more, kind of like the FT2 clone is... heck, I use the low res mode in SunVox, it just makes it fun for me, like an old video game, yes I grew up during the DOS days. Thanks for the reply I'm glad there are still people using protrekkr! I have it installed, one day I'll go back with some samples and make a couple modules. If it ever get's updated I'll make as many as I can. Woah it is actually being updated?!?!?!!! what the heck?!?!?!! I'll go check it out, thanks!
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Korg Supporter wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:33 pm I think Sunvox is cool, but I am waiting for Renoise 3.5.
I haven't been keeping up on Renoise news, is that coming soon? Any idea of what's coming?
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El°HYM wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:43 pm SunVox is just brilliant. While Renoise still might have an edge here and there as the overall Tracker, as an Instrument SunVox certainly rules. Cool to see it just has been updated too!
I wonder if he'll ever cave and make it a VST, it's already a plugin on iOS which I'm guessing you might already know ;)
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Yeah, it's being updated... Protrekkr is up to 2.7.0... I found a problem with it but Franck fixed it within 24 hrs (it would not create instruments for itself that would play)... That was a month or so ago...

Didn't know the Synth was busted I guess because I just use it for background sounds like the 'wow-wow' in this WIP-

https://soundcloud.com/waxing-and-wanin ... -iteration

Used both 303s in that though, one for riffing the other is dedicated bassline...

Franck did fix the 'off' command for the 303s it now 'works' I used to have to just pick pattern 'A0' to switch to since there's no such pattern the 303 just 'stopped'...

Also use AXS have a thread on that over there too... nearing 825,000 views so there's interest from somewhere, mars, jupiter...who knows...

https://warmplace.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6350


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I find Sunvox quite strange but it makes me do stuff I wouldn’t achieve otherwise, and sounds great. I love that most instruments and effects have lofi options, like choosing the interpolation mode for the sampler. Lots of gritty tones you don’t often get with software available.

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theorize wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2024 7:24 pm I haven't checked here for a while, it's become quite good. I'd say it's the best tracker, even better than renoise. It really is a mind-blowing bit of code, especially when you consider the fact that it's free on PC, it's a full blown studio that's very capable, and light on the CPU. A new version just came out, every year it gets better and better.

Hopefully I've turned someone on to something they didn't know about before, if you've used trackers in the past but never tried SunVox there's never been a better time. Or even if you haven't used trackers, and are sick of the VST game and want something that's all-in-one... You can design your own instruments and effects in it, or use other peoples, a lot is included with the DL, the community is generous with sharing what they've made. It's FM synthesis capabilities are virtually limitless, that's one thing that you won't see in anything that's not modular, and some that is. It has basically a version of PadSynth built in, that's a really cool feature. It's different from what you're likely used, and doesn't have wavetable synthesis but that's basically it. I'm going to start diving into physical modeling with it soon, I'm going to try my best to take inspiration from Noisy 2, it's a great synth and it would be awesome if I could get similar sounds out of SunVox. I'll have to see, I'm not sure my knowledge is up to par but that's an opportunity!

Anyway, enjoy the software if this is the first you've heard of it, if you are currently a SunVox user please say hi, I'd like to see how many of us are here :)

Renoise is purely sample based and not modular in nature , so you can't really compare apart from the fact they are both trackers .
I also really dislike the overall workflow of sunvox , the fonts of the pattern editor , the resizing of the windows etc..
The fm engine is cool , but there is also something I can't put my finger on the overall sound , you have to dial the master fader way back to prevent clipping and Sunvox clips verry easily .
All in all , I tried to like it but just never get the copfortable feeling I have when using renoise , besides that it is really a tour de force for a one man's project
Renoise imho is a lot more user friendly , the great pattern /insrument, audio editor , the inclusion of the fabulous cdp lua tool for offline stellar dsp goodies etc..
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Renoise isn't sample-based if you are using synths, only WAVs or XRNI...

Problem with Renoise is that it's too highly touted for what it is, You can make just as good a music in many other trackers...

Renoise is the RAM PIG of trackers using XRNIs of larger size also does not 'sound better' than other trackers... I did an experiment a few months ago taking my SFZ instrument & converting to AKAI for Skale Tracker, SF2 for SVArTracker and XRNI for Renoise... They all sounded the SAME except for Skale which sounded slightly better than the other two...

Renoise has decent internal FX but I have found tons others just as good or better...

Renoise was slated to have a piano roll early on, too bad on that one-
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https://web.archive.org/web/20030227065 ... om/wip.php

Would have been great if it had been a vertical piano roll like Aodix or BUZE-

Aodix
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BUZE
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BUZE like many other trackers has features most don't know about that renoise will never have-
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Renoise is great for plug scanning, would have been better with machine hook-up like SunVox... Don't know why but since it's been around so long it should be able to handle ANY sampler format right into it not just 'WAV, AiF, FLAC' it should open natively SFZ, SF2, EXS, GIG, so forth so on without using a third-party sampler to do it!

So Renoise uses vast modern resources but is locked in the past...WEIRD!

They should put the old 303s from NoiseTrekker 2 back into renoise like they are in Protrekkr, now THAT would be an improvement...

And WHY are so many making crap music in renoise these days? You should save your money & use anything else FREE for that...

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To each their own , been using renoise for 2 decades and never missed a piano roll .
IMho all other trackers pale in comparison when it comes to workflow and speed
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