Deepmind 6/12

[seafire]

Apart from the voices/poly and keys, is there any difference?

They seem to be dirt cheap on ebay right now, a little bit tempted

[dellboy]

Apart from the voices/poly and keys, is there any difference?

They seem to be dirt cheap on ebay right now, a little bit tempted

I have the Deepmind12. I have no idea what the differences are. I think they are more or less the same. I have a Juno 6 and an Alpha Juno 2 stored away and the Deepmind 12 is currently in use performing those duties.

[lfm]

I don't think there is anything different than voices, and dimensions of course.
- I had DM6 and very convenient format
- you had lit leds for how many voices were used as you played
- 1024 storage for presets/patches
- categories for presets and able to navigate through one category etc
- you also have curves for all envelopes to decide how each stage behave

Very well thought out synth. Skip effects and signal path is all analog.

[bmanic]

I very much recommend getting the Deepmind 12 over the 6. It's not just "a little more".. it's like 1000% better. And yes, it's an absolutely criminally underrated synth. Extremely good in my opinion.

Why? Because you can use the unison feature as a sort of "multi-osc" setup. With some clever mod matrix programming, you can basically set different parameters for the unison voices, thus making the synth much more capable than the basic 2 osc synth it is. And of course, if you do use this system it'll halve your polyphony.

Something like 80% of my presets use at least unison voice set to 2. Many are set to 3. Thus the Deepmind 6 would be kind of useless whereas the DM12 stays true as a proper polysynth where you can comfortably play chords even with unison voices set to 3.

[bmanic]

Skip effects and signal path is all analog.

.. or set the effect as a send and you still got the main signal path 100% analog while getting some very nice effects too.

[bmanic]

And the mandatory sound examples I've made over the years:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W2nSNj ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19tB-_H ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1l1_fkn ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zGWLTe ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kwJtcp ... drive_link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eLvYdO ... drive_link

I've made over 400 presets for my DM12. Though to be fair there are a lot of variations in this list.. but still.

[Scotty]

There is more than one of us who consider the Deepmind 12(d) to be one of the best synths in our collections. I heard one of the regular guys on Sonic State say the same and one of the other panelists almost choked. He stood his ground. He said "look at my room. There is a reason the Deepmind is on my desk and not in rack." It is a wonderful synth. I hope that someday they'll do a DeepMind12- 2 with sub-oscillators, external audio input and multiple outputs. It is damn fine as it is.

[seafire]

Thanks all, I'll be keeping an eye out for a cheap one.

[DrGonzo]

I very much recommend getting the Deepmind 12 over the 6. It's not just "a little more".. it's like 1000% better. And yes, it's an absolutely criminally underrated synth. Extremely good in my opinion.

I agree. The 12 is a seriously good synth. The only thing I personally didn't like with it was the slightly sluggish display updates. Otherwise than than - a great great synth.

[Scotty]

double

[vstdls]

Triple. I have the desktop, it's not just "great at that price" - the price is just an incredible feature as well.

[_leras]

And the mandatory sound examples I've made over the years:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1W2nSNj ... drive_link

I've made over 400 presets for my DM12. Though to be fair there are a lot of variations in this list.. but still.

Nice examples. Thanks for sharing.

Despite what people say, imo, you can't get this type of sound from a soft synth. You might get some of it, but that far eastern preset where the arp jumps up, I don't think it can be done with that alive analogy tone. (Happy to be proved wrong though)

[kritikon]

Must admit it wavers in and out of contention for me. Actually tempting me a bit more recently. I kinda miss using my Junos, but when being brutally honest I know they were pretty basic and extremely limited (though less so with the Alpha), but I still liked the sound and happily used them for years. But definitely not worth the expense of fixing them, whereas a DM would fill that hole, as they were originally intended as a Junoesque kinda thing AFAIK, but obviously went way beyond that remit. A Behringer Neptune initially attracts me but deep down I know it'll be as limited and pants as a real Juno and will disappoint me. And then I know I'll buy their Jupiter when it comes out, but that's not really the Juno sound, so Deepmind comes back to consideration. I know I won't dislike a DM, but will I use it that much? I think I need to dwell on it for another couple of years to make any decision. I now have a TD3, MC202, MS5 - which gives a good Roland range of sound but it's not the full set and a Juno worked well with my old 303/202 yrs ago.

What I would really like for Behringer to do is a DM that's more JX3p oriented. I think that was possibly my favourite Roland after the JP6 and I'd not have to dither about buying it. 202, 303, JX3p, Jupiter, MS5 - I'd be in heaven.

[bmanic]

I don't know who started the "it's a juno 106 clone" rumor but that's stupid and completely untrue. Probably some dumb youtubers or clueless Behringer representative. Is it the monophonic highpass filter that makes people compare it to juno?

The DM sounds nor behaves nothing like a juno at all. It's also way more capable. Super deep mod matrix. Full control of absolutely everything (even the shapes of all individual ADSR elements) and very thorough control over the fx section too.

[seafire]

It was probably just the general look/layout