Should AI Music be Included in Billboard Charts?
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
First AI artist to get record deal?
https://apnews.com/article/artificial-i ... d89aa93904
https://apnews.com/article/artificial-i ... d89aa93904
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- addled muppet weed
- 111275 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yup 
- KVRAF
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
100% And if they are found to have not declared the AI status, the band must be blacklisted forever and sentenced to 500 hours of community service.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
lol...well since courts in USA so far say fully AI music cant earn royalties,...and charts main function is to drive revenue...u think the industry will want to let music chart that's not making someone money?
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
I cant tell if this sarcasm...or you thought the title said "EXcluded" lolmorelia wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:34 am 100% And if they are found to have not declared the AI status, the band must be blacklisted forever and sentenced to 500 hours of community service.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- addled muppet weed
- 111275 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
there's always someone making money.bermudagold wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:44 amlol...well since courts in USA so far say fully AI music cant earn royalties,...and charts main function is to drive revenue...u think the industry will want to let music chart that's not making someone money?
maybe not royalties, but you can bet they'd find a way to monetise an ai hit. not if you or i did it, but if fat cat mcfattycattyface did.
- KVRian
- 1157 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
OH. MY. GOD.
Are you telling me even though I have zero skills with writing music I can have a hit song on the billboard charts using A.I.???? Wow!!
I am so gonna start using A.I. to make music and I'M GONNA BE A STAR! Just like those youtubers who made it big with their youtube videos!
Are you telling me even though I have zero skills with writing music I can have a hit song on the billboard charts using A.I.???? Wow!!
I am so gonna start using A.I. to make music and I'M GONNA BE A STAR! Just like those youtubers who made it big with their youtube videos!
- KVRAF
- 5256 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
How would you know it was included in the charts unless it was known to be AI? Therefore, yes, include it, so people know how to avoid it, or follow their new overlords.bermudagold wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:45 amI cant tell if this sarcasm...or you thought the title said "EXcluded" lolmorelia wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 12:34 am 100% And if they are found to have not declared the AI status, the band must be blacklisted forever and sentenced to 500 hours of community service.
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- KVRAF
- 16800 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Well, there's still a set of skills required: knowing what has hit potential, and loads of marketing to make that happen.VOODOO U wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 3:41 am Are you telling me even though I have zero skills with writing music I can have a hit song on the billboard charts using A.I.????
Good luck with that.
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- KVRist
- 89 posts since 5 Dec, 2022
Sure. Competition keeps people sharp
- KVRian
- 1157 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
Nobody has skills to know what has hit potential. They'd be the richest person on earth if they knew that. You just gotta open yourself up to let the demons speak through you and let it go. If it speaks to thousands, it was supposed to.BertKoor wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2025 10:09 am Well, there's still a set of skills required: knowing what has hit potential,
- KVRian
- 1157 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
It's passion that keeps people sharp. There's no competitiveness without being passionate.
- KVRAF
- 4682 posts since 6 Jan, 2003
Billboard has nothing to do with creativity or quality. It is about how successful a marketing campaign has been, and is then itself used as further marketing. So it seems depressingly logical that the thing that charts money generation would also include AI generated products.
People like that who are “making” AI music are playing the roll of an actual artist’s natural predator: the parasitic record exec. The exec decides what rip off / regurgitation / or crapification of other songs they want this time, then tells whoever else they are exploiting to actually make it. If the first version is rejected then more are made until the exec thinks a viable product (or effective tax write off) has been delivered. The end result goes through the marketing process and is stuffed into the ears of a generic audience as the audio equivalent of fast food. The execs make money and artists get screwed. With AI they can now eliminate every actual talented/creative person from the entire process, and anyone with a computer can pretend to be the self important parasite while also calling themselves an artist.
Real artists will always find creative uses for anything we can get our hands on. That is just who we are and how we see and interact with the world, and we’ll do that with AI stuff too. However, the golden age of commercial art - in all forms - is over. There will still be an audience for hand crafted music from actual creative people, but it will be the same as with those who dig real visual art. It will be a niche subset of people who can tell the difference and appreciate it. The general public won’t give a damn about what we do anymore and will likely see it as archaic waste of time. They might like the results if/when they hear it, but to them the source is irrelevant and they tend not to recognize creativity let alone care about it. They just want their catchy distraction, dopamine hit and, perhaps more than anything, yet another path to generic conformity.
People like that who are “making” AI music are playing the roll of an actual artist’s natural predator: the parasitic record exec. The exec decides what rip off / regurgitation / or crapification of other songs they want this time, then tells whoever else they are exploiting to actually make it. If the first version is rejected then more are made until the exec thinks a viable product (or effective tax write off) has been delivered. The end result goes through the marketing process and is stuffed into the ears of a generic audience as the audio equivalent of fast food. The execs make money and artists get screwed. With AI they can now eliminate every actual talented/creative person from the entire process, and anyone with a computer can pretend to be the self important parasite while also calling themselves an artist.
Real artists will always find creative uses for anything we can get our hands on. That is just who we are and how we see and interact with the world, and we’ll do that with AI stuff too. However, the golden age of commercial art - in all forms - is over. There will still be an audience for hand crafted music from actual creative people, but it will be the same as with those who dig real visual art. It will be a niche subset of people who can tell the difference and appreciate it. The general public won’t give a damn about what we do anymore and will likely see it as archaic waste of time. They might like the results if/when they hear it, but to them the source is irrelevant and they tend not to recognize creativity let alone care about it. They just want their catchy distraction, dopamine hit and, perhaps more than anything, yet another path to generic conformity.
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- KVRian
- 1306 posts since 29 Sep, 2012 from Minnesota
I believe that all governments in the world should hand over the reigns to AI. That everyone should use AI for all of their daily tasks. Eventually the Earth will be made unfit for the maintenance of human life so the only natural solution is to construct pods to live in and use your biometrics as a battery to power the AI. It is inevitable, resistance is futile.