AI assistant/copilot for ableton live

[Feater]

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Hey everyone,

We’ve been developing Feater, an AI-powered assistant for Ableton Live, it’s a workflow assistant that helps you control and automate Live faster, using natural language or simple commands while you stay in full creative control.

We’re running a closed beta and looking for a few more testers, It’s free and your feedback will be of infinite help.

You can join here:
https://www.feater.ai/
(https://www.feater.ai/)
Happy to answer any questions here

[v4p0r]

Can you make that for Reaper, too?

(maybe Cockos should do that and name it "Manual"...)

[wasi]

How does it work and what is the workflwo like? I understand piquing curiosity, but if I'm supposed to sign up blindly for something I can't even see how it operates I just pass.

[VOODOO U]

Can you make that for Reaper, too?

(maybe Cockos should do that and name it "Manual"...)

It'll only be a matter of time before Cockos implements this into Reaper. Along with stem separation.

[Feater]

Can you make that for Reaper, too?

(maybe Cockos should do that and name it "Manual"...)

We would love to do that, in fact it would be easier to implement for reaper than it has been for Ableton Live. We decided on Live because it is what we use and it has a larger user base, but if this works out, we would love to bring the approach to other DAWs as well.

[Feater]

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How does it work and what is the workflwo like? I understand piquing curiosity, but if I'm supposed to sign up blindly for something I can't even see how it operates I just pass.

Understandable! Although the beta is completely free and there’s no commitment.

Basically, there’s a plug-in that connects your Ableton Live session to the AI chat of your choice (e.g. Claude or ChatGPT). From there, you can use natural language to get information about your project or ask the AI to make modifications, for example: automating stem exporting, helping with arrangement, cleaning up MIDI sequences or generating variations of the ones you created, adjusting parameters, searching for samples, and adding them automatically.

You can find more info here: https://www.feater.ai/docs/usage/ (https://www.feater.ai/docs/usage/)

Hope you like the idea and decide to sign up!

[v4p0r]

Can you make that for Reaper, too?

(maybe Cockos should do that and name it "Manual"...)

We would love to do that, in fact it would be easier to implement for reaper than it has been for Ableton Live. We decided on Live because it is what we use and it has a larger user base, but if this works out, we would love to bring the approach to other DAWs as well.

I don't want to derail the thread but maybe you can leverage AI to scrape or research (Reaper) content, take application screenshots and create a manual.html where you have classic (big, automated, not too automated) manual content. Picture per feature, one page UI (it's basically a large e-book?). I'm not liking the AI too much, I just get like 10-20% hallucinations (your book must have 0%). Also I just want to type into an indexed field like you would do with chm files. Then make it systematically, and duplicate the methods you illustrate for each indexing.

E.g. when I want to know how to auto-arm on focus, you make the indexing work like this

Arming on focus
Focus sets arming

You provide a clear title for the help topic from both (many) views and index it. Let me just type Arming or focus or selected track etc.

A... Arming... Arming on focus
F... Focus... Focus can set arming (and unarm all other tracks that use the same feature)
S... Selected track... Selecting track auto-arms track

And you keep the right order. Not "auto-arm on selection" when the user typed "selection", but "Selection auto-arms track" so that the whole chain makes a correct sentence from the starting word.

Matter of fact is I don't even go to the wikis anymore. Usually they have like 5-10% outdated content in it? Or I'm just too misguided or foolish. I just want documentation that goes along with the application and is up to date.
$9,99? $19,99? Something like this, one fee, download link for all future versions.

That is what I really would like. No claude. No talking and smileys. Even though they are funny. I don't want to pay for that way it is done. It's not really right, and I will never really trust it.

[Kypresso]

Have you ever looked at the reaper manual, its a searchable pdf, updated all the time (last update was about 10 days ago) and its free.
Not sure what else you really need.

[v4p0r]

Have you ever looked at the reaper manual, its a searchable pdf, updated all the time (last update was about 10 days ago) and its free.
Not sure what else you really need.

Hm, might also work. I was thinking about the assistant and how it differs from what I know, trying to find something inbetween, or why I'm hesitating even if it was already as advanced as chatgpt. It's the way it works and how it differs from what I see as faster or am used to.

[osiris]

I really wish I could use Copilot in FL. I use Copilot for mix EQ advice all the time but I fry out my free usage by uploading such a huge chunk of data. It did find a notch in a vocal once in seconds that would have taken me probably a good 15 minutes of sliding the frequencies around to find.

[Milkman]

Blocked. There is exactly zero examples of what people call "AI" that I will tolerate, and I dont need to explain my reasoning here because the entire world, basically, understands the threats and risks of this slop.

Art is a human behavior, not a product. GTFO with this trash.

[waxtrax]

Art is a human behavior, not a product. GTFO with this trash.

Good art evolves with time and the tools available. People are naturally resistant to things they do not immediately understand.

AI has the potential range from simple workflow enhancement (as is the case in this example), to complete generation of music with little or no human intervention. The true artistry lies somewhere within this spectrum. This is no different in concept than using a DAW versus cutting tape to put together a song.

You are absolutely correct that art is a human behavior, but good art evolves with time and the tools available.

[VOODOO U]

AI has the potential range from simple workflow enhancement (as is the case in this example),

Which i support 100% to be implemented into DAWs so long as it's kept offline.

to complete generation of music with little or no human intervention.

I hate to hi-jack but how does A.I. generate music without human intervention??

[osiris]

Deja vu. I grew up without the internet. The internet spawned the Unabomber and all kinds of opinions like this. My philosophy is you either use it, or it uses you.

[waxtrax]

I hate to hi-jack but how does A.I. generate music without human intervention??

I guess taken literally that could mean one AI agent instructing another one to generate music. But what I really meant was entire songs created with just a little bit of input from a person, such as "create a song in the style of XYZ".

People are already doing that, and while I probably agree with most people reading this that we don't really consider that "art", it's still ultimately in the eye of the beholder and subjective. One person's trash is another's treasure, etc.

As far as AI being a tool to help create art, while one person may prompt an AI system with something extremely generic such as "create a song in the style of XYZ" (which is perfectly valid), another person will continue to refine the prompt, such as "change the bassline to a pattern based on the D major scale" or "reduce the amount of percussion by 23%". In each of these cases, AI is used as a tool to create art, which is no different in concept than using a MIDI controller to trigger sounds on a virtual instrument.

Still, some people would say that using a MIDI controller is not a valid way to make music because it is not a real piano and therefore not real music. Nobody's right or wrong --- it's all subjective.