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JaseisMusic · Post by **JaseisMusic** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:11 am

I'm just learning FL. The step sequencer doesn't seem that good for complex drum patterns. Many beats don't fall on the dot right. So to do offbeat type patterns, you need to up the tempo to 200 or 300 so each step will cover a smaller spot? I'm not liking this, am I missing a simplerway to get complex patterns with the step sequencer? Even melodies sometimes need to fall in between 1/4 notes, I shouldn't have to double the tempo!

Ebenezer Squeezer · Post by **Ebenezer Squeezer** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:13 am

Have you tried the piano roll?

smart · Post by **smart** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:15 am

doubleing the tempo or using the pianoroll are how you do it.

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:34 am

am I missing a simplerway to get complex patterns with the step sequencer?

No, i think double tempo is the solution indeed.

hlmst · Post by **hlmst** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:49 am

btw, talkin about frooty, is there a way to change the wavestart offset in the sampler?

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:52 am

no, afaik

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:07 am

easymode wrote:
am I missing a simplerway to get complex patterns with the step sequencer?
No, i think double tempo is the solution indeed.

don't forget you can use the "shift" feature (little graph button, top right of the step sequencer). This enables you to place beats wherever you like, not just on the quarter beat...

gruberman · Post by **gruberman** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:16 am

JaseisMusic wrote:I'm just learning FL. The step sequencer doesn't seem that good for complex drum patterns. Many beats don't fall on the dot right. So to do offbeat type patterns, you need to up the tempo to 200 or 300 so each step will cover a smaller spot? I'm not liking this, am I missing a simplerway to get complex patterns with the step sequencer? Even melodies sometimes need to fall in between 1/4 notes, I shouldn't have to double the tempo!

What you have to do is to use the pianoroll and read the manual on snap settings.

topless · Post by **topless** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:30 am

In FL5 (to be released in December), you will be able to customize step resolution in the step sequencer...

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:36 am

2 words (3 actually):

pianoroll

snap setting

JaseisMusic · Post by **JaseisMusic** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:19 am

thanks, I'll look into the snap settings and piano roll. Seems a little inefficient,I was hoping to keep it in the step seq. .But hopefully FL5 will enable that.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:41 am

yeh, but keep at it, because really it's a wicked piece o' gear. Ya get the hang of it and before you know it it will seem like second nature. The piano roll has some really cool features too; I think that chop is the best feature for rythm programming.
I wonder what it would be like if the step seq had flam, like the old drum machine thing...?

Fhangor · Post by **Fhangor** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:42 am

You can double the beat length in the project properties, then double the tempo and you can make accurate drums...

Maybe search in forums to get better descriptions...

JaseisMusic · Post by **JaseisMusic** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:13 pm

I don't see much info in the manual for snap. Is 1/4 beat equal to 64th note?

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:03 pm

topless wrote:In FL5 (to be released in December), you will be able to customize step resolution in the step sequencer...

and finally the toolbars will can be locked - hoo f**king ra

looking forward to the automation curves

Early Fruityloops frustration!!