Will Ai be the next big step in music?

[annode]

Through the years music makes strides into new realms with the help of technology. The last big step in more recent years was The Beatles realizing the studio can be sort of an instrument or Fx. Then came the synthesizer and a little later the sequencer and DAW. Now we are looking at Ai. Is this the next Holy Grail? Will someone come along and create a completely new music form with the assistance of Ai? History predicts they will, yes. So now we know.

Everyone seems to be worrying about Ai imitating what we have already created. But lets get real, the true possibilities have not yet been realized. What was Beatles until they came along and changed the way music was written and created. What would Depeche Mode be without synthesis? Who will be the first to blow our minds with the start of a new musical revolution?

[eassae]

[ksandvik]

I'm sure AI agents need AI music. Not we humans.

[ians]

A step forwards or backwards?

[Bunny_boy]

[annode]

I'm beginning to remember why I left KVR yrs ago. I thought it might have changed. I'll be on my way shortly.

[annode]

A step forwards or backwards?

We are it's only limitation.

[enroe]

... The last big step in more recent years was The Beatles realizing the studio can be
sort of an instrument or Fx.

I really like that you see the development in very major milestones.
And yes, the Beatles were a turning point in many ways: They
created such a strong teen hype for the first time, they continued
song composition in the studio (George Martin) but they also
created their own style (now Britpop).

Will someone come along and create a completely new music form with the assistance of Ai?
History predicts they will, yes. So now we know.

How do you know that? I can't see it at all. What historical
comparisons are there?
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When we look at AI, we absolutely must distinguish between
three areas:

1. -- AI tools
2. -- AI song composition now
3. -- AI song composition in the future.
I have described the three areas
here.

Since you think in "big steps" and "upheavals" and ask about it:
Yes, a big, even disruptive upheaval is imminent!

It's important to remember that AI isn't simply "just" a new tool –
like synthesizers or samplers or DAWs were. No – it's a
completely new way of thinking and composing. AI consists of
neural networks; it's no longer programmed, it "learns."

In short, this means for music as a whole: AI is much faster, more
efficient, and more cost-effective than humans. Therefore, it will
completely take over the composing—that is, the creation of new
music and new songs—from humans. In the commercial sector
and in the content sector of the internet, in just a few years there
will be almost exclusively AI-generated music.

The composer, sound engineer, and mixer of the old school, like
the ones we see here in the forum, will retreat to a niche of the
"old-fashioned," earlier culture. Just as vinyl records or analog
photography did.

For more detailed information - feel free to also read the posts
by user "chagzuki" - see here.

[jancivil]

it's the next step for a lemming to join the others off a cliff

[Bombadil]

It is often a human defect that we take the paths of least resistance far too often. It’s sent me down dead-ends often enough. Not with music.

[eassae]

[Bombadil]

AI is the biggest step BACKWARD in music history. Nothing new or innovative will ever come out of it. It’s de-evolution time for our species, and this is a symptom of a greater malaise.
I blame Karaoke, personally.

[jancivil]

There's a kind of straight progression from the kinds of musics that are so dumbed-down in terms of the vocabulary employed and prerequisite ability to execute - since the machine can simply quantize to a clock if anything is executed, let alone the prefabricated material, construction kits ad naus so a person can 'make some beats' with no skill set on any level - to the present day "prompt", suggest a generic concept and the machine spits out its simulacrum of that. (in a long line of simulacra of something we may well have lost track of any origin)

So I blame KVR. All kidding aside, pointing this out, which is not in itself a product of personal opinion or rancor but a straight observation of the fact of the matter, was something people could not handle, it got real personal whether you were the target or not. (We were warned of the atrophy resulting from outsourcing all work way back in 1895, Wells' The Time Machine.) Now your brave new world has come to pass. A mass delusion that affects more people than it has to, thinking they're making some kind of argument when it's not more than a denial of reality. People that seemed normal have since guzzled the Kool-Aid. The usual suspects are of course no surprise.
It's of a piece with eg., what happened to the US government in this same time frame. The other day some o' the usual suspects showed they'd gone full MAGA over to "Hosts" when a developer stood up to the shit one day.

The world begins to look like a Philip K Dick novel.

[annode]

A gushing rant of a pseudointellectual.

The answers are wrong because we don't ask the right questions.

[annode]

... The last big step in more recent years was The Beatles realizing the studio can be
sort of an instrument or Fx.

I really like that you see the development in very major milestones.
And yes, the Beatles were a turning point in many ways: They
created such a strong teen hype for the first time, they continued
song composition in the studio (George Martin) but they also
created their own style (now Britpop).

Will someone come along and create a completely new music form with the assistance of Ai?
History predicts they will, yes. So now we know.

How do you know that? I can't see it at all. What historical
comparisons are there?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
When we look at AI, we absolutely must distinguish between
three areas:

1. -- AI tools
2. -- AI song composition now
3. -- AI song composition in the future.
I have described the three areas
here.

Since you think in "big steps" and "upheavals" and ask about it:
Yes, a big, even disruptive upheaval is imminent!

It's important to remember that AI isn't simply "just" a new tool –
like synthesizers or samplers or DAWs were. No – it's a
completely new way of thinking and composing. AI consists of
neural networks; it's no longer programmed, it "learns."

In short, this means for music as a whole: AI is much faster, more
efficient, and more cost-effective than humans. Therefore, it will
completely take over the composing—that is, the creation of new
music and new songs—from humans. In the commercial sector
and in the content sector of the internet, in just a few years there
will be almost exclusively AI-generated music.

The composer, sound engineer, and mixer of the old school, like
the ones we see here in the forum, will retreat to a niche of the
"old-fashioned," earlier culture. Just as vinyl records or analog
photography did.

For more detailed information - feel free to also read the posts
by user "chagzuki" - see here.

Everything you state is true because it's what we can all see. It's what is not seen that will be revolutionary.