Long term Reaper user, thinking of Logic Pro -there are reasons :)

[keys_au1]

After this latest W11 security issue (to do with Defender exploits) I have had it with MS and windows, and I am tired of trying to make Linux fit to what I need and like to do (as GOOD as Linux is!!) so I bought an M4 Mac Mini.

So, the question is, as I am considering forking out for Logic Pro, do folks here who have used both think that's a good move, or should I perhaps stick with Reaper?

I have IK Multimedia efx and VSTi's, Ozone and some others from Izotope and AD2, and I have read that if you already have the plugins, then perhaps Logic Pro is not such a great move? There are lots of conflicting stories out there haha!

I have also read some that suggest Reaper is not so hot with MacOS?

[XorXisT]

Reaper can use all m4 cores, including efficiency cores.

Logic Pro can't, for some apple-ish reason.

For that alone I recommend you keep using Reaper.

[mutagen]

If the $200 or the subscription is not a huge outlay for you, go for it. You'll find a wonderful selection of stock instruments and some of the best stock effects available. You'll get free updates unless (until ...) they go fully subscription based. You'll get a wonderfully productive tool for making music and maybe some inspiration as you work though the materials available to learn Logic.

You'll also be able to continue using Reaper on MacOS and to be able to use everything you've already learned with it. Coming from primarily Windows and as an occasional MacOS user, Reaper on MacOS is less polished, fits in less, and feels a little out of place. However the core of the tools are there and work just like on any other OS and you can make music with it.

[starflakeprj]

After this latest W11 security issue (to do with Defender exploits) I have had it with MS and windows, and I am tired of trying to make Linux fit to what I need and like to do (as GOOD as Linux is!!) so I bought an M4 Mac Mini.

So, the question is, as I am considering forking out for Logic Pro, do folks here who have used both think that's a good move, or should I perhaps stick with Reaper?

I have IK Multimedia efx and VSTi's, Ozone and some others from Izotope and AD2, and I have read that if you already have the plugins, then perhaps Logic Pro is not such a great move? There are lots of conflicting stories out there haha!

I have also read some that suggest Reaper is not so hot with MacOS?

With Logic Pro you get Alchemy, that synth alone is worth the price of Logic Pro. Think of Alchemy as a contender to Omnisphere.

[starflakeprj]

Reaper can use all m4 cores, including efficiency cores.

Logic Pro can't, for some apple-ish reason.

For that alone I recommend you keep using Reaper.

I did never install Reaper on my Mac (my license is also only valid for v6.99), but comparing to, at least, Studio One, Logic Pro utilizes the cores much better

[Alexander_D]

I am on Mac as well, but I am in Cubase. Working a lot with video and scoring for films. So it's the main reason why I don't use Reaper. But it a cool DAW for sure

[keys_au1]

After this latest W11 security issue (to do with Defender exploits) I have had it with MS and windows, and I am tired of trying to make Linux fit to what I need and like to do (as GOOD as Linux is!!) so I bought an M4 Mac Mini.

So, the question is, as I am considering forking out for Logic Pro, do folks here who have used both think that's a good move, or should I perhaps stick with Reaper?

I have IK Multimedia efx and VSTi's, Ozone and some others from Izotope and AD2, and I have read that if you already have the plugins, then perhaps Logic Pro is not such a great move? There are lots of conflicting stories out there haha!

I have also read some that suggest Reaper is not so hot with MacOS?

With Logic Pro you get Alchemy, that synth alone is worth the price of Logic Pro. Think of Alchemy as a contender to Omnisphere.

Yes I did see that, I used to have Alchemy back in the day when it was a stand alone VSTi (if it's the same Alchemy of course) and I agree with your comment!

[ksandvik]

Alchemy is indeed a sleeper synth inside LPX, sad it can't be sold for other DAWs...

[qtheerearranger]

i would recommend any daw over logic pro. i cant stress enough how many features logic doesnt have compared to most daws. automation shapes, automation skew, automation clips, no track splitting (ie ableton effect racks, studio one splitter, bitwig containers). So much stuff where it sucks out of the box like automation not selecting last touched parameter not being on by default *correct me if they've changed this*

the quantec reverb is 10/10 but the chroma verb is horrible - laughably - which sucks because its set up to be very versatile. the logic compressor is the most versatile stock compressor that any daw offers - the only thing comparable is bitwig compressor+.

logic is seemingly focused on ai - if thats cool to you thats cool. but just remember them getting long faders was a big workflow improvement last year - which i think most daws had back in 2016. they cut off ara in native mode and then give you sandboxing that is pretty good although not bitwigs level - so your running the program on and off in these two modes to trade off these two amazing features. Finally 5 or so years later they are saying they are working on it with celemony - maybe the subscription gives them more leverage for a budget id admit.

alchemy is one of the coolest synths however its got an outdated parameter mapping system for modulations - lots of menu diving. sample alchemy is really cool but unless you do lofi or something your not going to use it in every song.

however, by far the daw with the best sampler out of any daw is logic pro - tempo detection, tempo sync and warping by multiple values (can half time, quarter time, 1.5x-4x time at least iirc) best layered sample player as well with their multi sampler. they have the autosampler for hardware synths thats incredible. they are so good with the sample game its unreal. and mpc is baked into it essentially.

i never get so passionate than to tell people to not use logic.

[keys_au1]

@qtheerearranger haha, quite the mixed messages in that post. Thanks, I think??

[Papuzzo]

I was in your situation in January of this year and wanted to move to Linux but for my two interests, photography and music, Linux is still behind. So I got an M4 Mac Mini. For music I always used Reaper and Ableton in Windows. I tried the 3 month demo of Logic and am surprised at how good and versatile Logic really is. I like Reaper for audio based projects and Ableton for MIDI based projects, and Logic does both well enough for me. If I had to use just 1 DAW I would use Logic. If you also are into photography and video, I can suggest first doing the 3 month demo of the Apple Creator Studio bundle. I ended up purchasing the subscription because it is rather economical for my needs. You have to decide for yourself. But you lose nothing and a 3 month demo is rather generous.

[keys_au1]

I was in your situation in January of this year and wanted to move to Linux but for my two interests, photography and music, Linux is still behind. So I got an M4 Mac Mini. For music I always used Reaper and Ableton in Windows. I tried the 3 month demo of Logic and am surprised at how good and versatile Logic really is. I like Reaper for audio based projects and Ableton for MIDI based projects, and Logic does both well enough for me. If I had to use just 1 DAW I would use Logic. If you also are into photography and video, I can suggest first doing the 3 month demo of the Apple Creator Studio bundle. I ended up purchasing the subscription because it is rather economical for my needs. You have to decide for yourself. But you lose nothing and a 3 month demo is rather generous.

Thanks, they do not seem to have that down here, Logic Pro is only one month free. I'd need a bit longer th give it a good try tbh.

[XorXisT]

Look, I hate youtubers as much as everyone else, but this video is, so far, very informative about DAW's usage of apple silicon E/P cores:



If you want & need performance, stick to Reaper.

Else, go ahead and get Logic. I own Logic and for 200 bucks it comes with a lot of usable features, good instruments (virtual & sampled) and very good fx.

[Papuzzo]

Interesting, is it one month for just Logic or also just 1 month for the creator studio bundle? I bought my Mac Mini before the creator studio bundle was announced and there was a 3 month demo of just Logic. All I can say is that Reaper works just fine on MacOS and there is no noticeable difference. Logic seems somewhat focused on the singer/songwriter crowd but has everything needed for mixing and mastering. If all one does is record bands or audio I would say stick with Reaper. If you only have a one month demo, I would suggest to watch this Youtube series to get a great idea of how Logic works before even downloading Logic.

[replicant X]

If you’re curious about Logic Pro, it’s a well-known DAW, so it’s worth trying. Otherwise, you’ll probably keep wondering about it. The trial period likely won’t be enough to fully judge it, and you may end up buying it anyway.

And once you get a decent sense of what Logic Pro can and can’t do, you might feel a bit disappointed by the gap between its reputation and reality—especially if you already know how to use REAPER fairly well.

I use REAPER on Mac, and I’ll probably keep buying new Macs just to continue using REAPER.

Since I’m familiar with both Logic Pro and REAPER, I could strongly argue that you don’t need Logic Pro if you already have REAPER and a solid set of plugins. But people use DAWs differently, so in the end, if you’re interested, the only real way to know is to try it yourself.