Do listeners devalue AI-generated pop music?
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
"In conclusion, this study found no negative biases toward AI-generated pop music, with participants rating it more favorably on positive emotional dimensions like happiness, interest, awe, and energizing emotions. These findings suggest that AI-generated pop music may be perceived as a legitimate and emotionally engaging form of artistry, particularly among younger listeners who may be more familiar with and receptive to AI technologies. While limitations such as the potential lack of emotional depth and complexity in the AI-generated music warrant further exploration, the results offer a more nuanced perspective on commonly held assumptions about resistance to AI in creative domains. This may indicate that AI-generated music may be more readily accepted than previously assumed, and that evolving listener attitudes could reshape how creativity is understood in the digital age.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- KVRAF
- 1934 posts since 18 May, 2021
How can you devalue that which does not have value?
When the data is corrupt in the Desert of the Real, Beyond the Last Thought, where intuition reigns, is the solace that will embolden and strengthen the soul, giving hope once more to this age of failing technique. eassae.com
- KVRAF
- 18334 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Study paid for by a government who is investing heavily in AI. Follow the money.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:27 am "In conclusion, this study found no negative biases toward AI-generated pop music, with participants rating it more favorably on positive emotional dimensions like happiness, interest, awe, and energizing emotions. These findings suggest that AI-generated pop music may be perceived as a legitimate and emotionally engaging form of artistry, particularly among younger listeners who may be more familiar with and receptive to AI technologies. While limitations such as the potential lack of emotional depth and complexity in the AI-generated music warrant further exploration, the results offer a more nuanced perspective on commonly held assumptions about resistance to AI in creative domains. This may indicate that AI-generated music may be more readily accepted than previously assumed, and that evolving listener attitudes could reshape how creativity is understood in the digital age.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
My b.s. detector is really good, and the amount of b.s. promoting A.I is really pegging the needle. Don't help it.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
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- KVRAF
- 7080 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Whacking this through Google AI suggests that there is no funding or declaration of interest issues with this paper, which I suppose is quite amusing ("well, Google AI would say that, wouldn't it??)
- KVRian
- 1144 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
Yes, stubborn older generations hate anything A.I. while young blood accepts it. Soon the young blood will fortunately trample over the old nuisance folks and bury them with their 8 tracks.
The next generation of Creative Directors of Software will dominate instrument geeks.
I for one welcome it and that's coming from a multi-instrumentalist fed up with tunings, intonations and lugging around gear. Just give me a laptop, death metal prompts and a big speaker I can shove through a church door during Sunday mass.
The next generation of Creative Directors of Software will dominate instrument geeks.
I for one welcome it and that's coming from a multi-instrumentalist fed up with tunings, intonations and lugging around gear. Just give me a laptop, death metal prompts and a big speaker I can shove through a church door during Sunday mass.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
AI is fine. AI artists are dumb.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 26 Aug, 2005 from Oregon, USA
I doubt many, the PRO Tools hype has gone. But AI artists are dumb.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
yeah multiple previous studies have found majority f listeners cant tell...but their feelings/opinions change once told...but to think we would have reached a point already where a critical mass has achieved blanket acceptance without bias, would be surprising...and kinda sadzerocrossing wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 4:04 pmStudy paid for by a government who is investing heavily in AI. Follow the money.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:27 am "In conclusion, this study found no negative biases toward AI-generated pop music, with participants rating it more favorably on positive emotional dimensions like happiness, interest, awe, and energizing emotions. These findings suggest that AI-generated pop music may be perceived as a legitimate and emotionally engaging form of artistry, particularly among younger listeners who may be more familiar with and receptive to AI technologies. While limitations such as the potential lack of emotional depth and complexity in the AI-generated music warrant further exploration, the results offer a more nuanced perspective on commonly held assumptions about resistance to AI in creative domains. This may indicate that AI-generated music may be more readily accepted than previously assumed, and that evolving listener attitudes could reshape how creativity is understood in the digital age.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
My b.s. detector is really good, and the amount of b.s. promoting A.I is really pegging the needle. Don't help it.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
- KVRAF
- 18334 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
There are no AI artists.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
- KVRist
- 470 posts since 24 Feb, 2008 from Germany
“The biggest crime of a musician is to play notes instead of making music.”
Isaac Stern
Isaac Stern
- KVRian
- 1144 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
People preferring to do things the hard way where it's time consuming are dumb.
If I, for example, wanted to draw a professional looking comic book character it would take me hours maybe even days just to get one page, maybe even one panel done depending on that panels requirements. A.I. could do it in minutes.
We just have to get to a point where we can have control over absolute details. It'll get there.
- KVRAF
- 18334 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Who is doing the studies? The tobacco industry said their studies showed that tobacco didn’t cause cancer. The fossil fuel industry did studies that they said that burning fossil fuels didn’t cause global warming.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 6:48 pmyeah multiple previous studies have found majority f listeners cant tell...but their feelings/opinions change once told...but to think we would have reached a point already where a critical mass has achieved blanket acceptance without bias, would be surprising...and kinda sadzerocrossing wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 4:04 pmStudy paid for by a government who is investing heavily in AI. Follow the money.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:27 am "In conclusion, this study found no negative biases toward AI-generated pop music, with participants rating it more favorably on positive emotional dimensions like happiness, interest, awe, and energizing emotions. These findings suggest that AI-generated pop music may be perceived as a legitimate and emotionally engaging form of artistry, particularly among younger listeners who may be more familiar with and receptive to AI technologies. While limitations such as the potential lack of emotional depth and complexity in the AI-generated music warrant further exploration, the results offer a more nuanced perspective on commonly held assumptions about resistance to AI in creative domains. This may indicate that AI-generated music may be more readily accepted than previously assumed, and that evolving listener attitudes could reshape how creativity is understood in the digital age.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
My b.s. detector is really good, and the amount of b.s. promoting A.I is really pegging the needle. Don't help it.
It’s very important to always ask yourself three questions. Who is doing the study, who is funding it, and who stands to profit from the results.
Other questions that I ask are, who is asking for this? Was anyone clamoring for more music because there is some sort of new music shortage? Who benefits from AI generated music? Who is enjoying the prompt process? The music industry has already figured out how to extract almost all the wealth from artists. They’re still going to need to let a few slip by and become successful so the illusion that it’s possible to “make it” is maintained and they have someone to do live performances.
I’ve never in my life seen a marketing campaign like the one for AI. It’s so aggressive. When people were talking about the internet, it was all about what people could do with it. With most AI, it’s about what people can be replaced by it.
Now, as I’ve said before, I’m not really totally down on what people call AI. A lot of it is just machine learning with a new name. If you don’t like or care to learn audio production, and you want to turn the melody, lyrics and chords into full compositions using Suno, have at it. If asking for an entire song to be constructed from a prompt is fulfilling to you, have at it… though I suspect it isn’t. It’s like paying someone to go to the gym for you. No matter how specific you are about how the workout should happen, you will not benefit from it.
Zerocrossing Media
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
4th Law of Robotics: When turning evil, display a red indicator light. ~[ ●_● ]~
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
i'm not for AI in the arts at all really...but i cant live in a bubble of my feelings and opinions...that's why any real world data is always interestingzerocrossing wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 7:36 pmWho is doing the studies? The tobacco industry said their studies showed that tobacco didn’t cause cancer. The fossil fuel industry did studies that they said that burning fossil fuels didn’t cause global warming.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 6:48 pmyeah multiple previous studies have found majority f listeners cant tell...but their feelings/opinions change once told...but to think we would have reached a point already where a critical mass has achieved blanket acceptance without bias, would be surprising...and kinda sadzerocrossing wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 4:04 pmStudy paid for by a government who is investing heavily in AI. Follow the money.bermudagold wrote: Sun May 17, 2026 2:27 am "In conclusion, this study found no negative biases toward AI-generated pop music, with participants rating it more favorably on positive emotional dimensions like happiness, interest, awe, and energizing emotions. These findings suggest that AI-generated pop music may be perceived as a legitimate and emotionally engaging form of artistry, particularly among younger listeners who may be more familiar with and receptive to AI technologies. While limitations such as the potential lack of emotional depth and complexity in the AI-generated music warrant further exploration, the results offer a more nuanced perspective on commonly held assumptions about resistance to AI in creative domains. This may indicate that AI-generated music may be more readily accepted than previously assumed, and that evolving listener attitudes could reshape how creativity is understood in the digital age.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 212500101X
My b.s. detector is really good, and the amount of b.s. promoting A.I is really pegging the needle. Don't help it.
It’s very important to always ask yourself three questions. Who is doing the study, who is funding it, and who stands to profit from the results.
Other questions that I ask are, who is asking for this? Was anyone clamoring for more music because there is some sort of new music shortage? Who benefits from AI generated music? Who is enjoying the prompt process? The music industry has already figured out how to extract almost all the wealth from artists. They’re still going to need to let a few slip by and become successful so the illusion that it’s possible to “make it” is maintained and they have someone to do live performances.
I’ve never in my life seen a marketing campaign like the one for AI. It’s so aggressive. When people were talking about the internet, it was all about what people could do with it. With most AI, it’s about what people can be replaced by it.
Now, as I’ve said before, I’m not really totally down on what people call AI. A lot of it is just machine learning with a new name. If you don’t like or care to learn audio production, and you want to turn the melody, lyrics and chords into full compositions using Suno, have at it. If asking for an entire song to be constructed from a prompt is fulfilling to you, have at it… though I suspect it isn’t. It’s like paying someone to go to the gym for you. No matter how specific you are about how the workout should happen, you will not benefit from it.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRist
- 324 posts since 18 May, 2020
Hatsune Miku's US tour just wrapped up.
13 April 2026 – Chicago, IL – Auditorium Theatre
15 April 2026 – Denver, CO – Mission Ballroom
18 April 2026 – Vancouver, BC – Doug Mitchell Thunderbird Sports Centre
20 April 2026 – Seattle, WA – WAMU Theater
22 April 2026 – San Jose, CA – San Jose Civic
25 April 2026 – Los Angeles, CA – Peacock Theater
28 April 2026 – Glendale, AZ – Desert Diamond Arena
30 April 2026 – Grand Prairie, TX – Texas Trust CU Theatre
1 May 2026 – Cedar Park, TX – H-E-B Center
3 May 2026 – Duluth, GA – Gas South Arena
5 May 2026 – Washington, DC – The Anthem
7 May 2026 – Newark, NJ – Prudential Center
10 May 2026 – Boston, MA – Wang Theatre
13 May 2026 – Hamilton, ON – TD Coliseum
Wild to me that "she" has been touring since 2014.
Pop music is pretty formulaic, especially lately. Pick between four on the floor or break beat.
Similar tempos.
Similar chord structures.
Fast vocal delivery in the verse (or chorus) and slow long notes in the other part. etc.
Ai or not, what goes viral now is usually paid for via view / listen botting. Things are more crooked than the radio payola days.
Google "young people hate ai" and check some of those results.
I still think the best pop music starts with an artist (kylie minogue, lady gaga, madonna) showing up at a gay club unannounced and doing a quick song.
13 April 2026 – Chicago, IL – Auditorium Theatre
15 April 2026 – Denver, CO – Mission Ballroom
18 April 2026 – Vancouver, BC – Doug Mitchell Thunderbird Sports Centre
20 April 2026 – Seattle, WA – WAMU Theater
22 April 2026 – San Jose, CA – San Jose Civic
25 April 2026 – Los Angeles, CA – Peacock Theater
28 April 2026 – Glendale, AZ – Desert Diamond Arena
30 April 2026 – Grand Prairie, TX – Texas Trust CU Theatre
1 May 2026 – Cedar Park, TX – H-E-B Center
3 May 2026 – Duluth, GA – Gas South Arena
5 May 2026 – Washington, DC – The Anthem
7 May 2026 – Newark, NJ – Prudential Center
10 May 2026 – Boston, MA – Wang Theatre
13 May 2026 – Hamilton, ON – TD Coliseum
Wild to me that "she" has been touring since 2014.
Pop music is pretty formulaic, especially lately. Pick between four on the floor or break beat.
Similar tempos.
Similar chord structures.
Fast vocal delivery in the verse (or chorus) and slow long notes in the other part. etc.
Ai or not, what goes viral now is usually paid for via view / listen botting. Things are more crooked than the radio payola days.
Google "young people hate ai" and check some of those results.
I still think the best pop music starts with an artist (kylie minogue, lady gaga, madonna) showing up at a gay club unannounced and doing a quick song.
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