KVR Audio

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:41 am

like Renoise does.

http://www.renoise.com/

i'm really into sampling and have been looking for something that would export tracks seperately as wavfiles which i have found alot of apps to do that but the only one i've heard of that lets you render the fx in place on the track in question are this renoise....(if i understand its feature correctly) are there any more apps that do this?

tee boy · Post by **tee boy** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:59 am

You can do this in Cubase SX. Just go up to the audio menu and select a plug in. Is that what you meant?

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:07 am

no I meant you've got a track right, lets say guitar on track
1, and you apply a wah wah effect to the track, when you render the effect in place then it is printed onto the audio in that track in this case the guitar part as if you bounced it to another track with efx.

Distortion · Post by **Distortion** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:13 am

yeah, what tee boy said. Cubase SX can do offline processing of effects. You can even undo it afterwards if you wish.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:16 am

dont most hosts do this?
i know orion does if i leave the fx turned on it streams the wav with fx on

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:36 am

well what i use is Live 4 and it streams the wavs with effects on but I'd like to print the efx to the track and then turn the effect off or use another effect, i don't have sx but i'd like something like that in energy xt, and i might pick up this renoise if its the best thing i find since it's really geared towards the samplist it seems.

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:49 am

stale bread,

I think the feature you're descibing is known as Freeze.

Distortion · Post by **Distortion** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:49 am

Yes, in Cubase you can apply the effect to the audio, then remove the VST or DXi effect and load a different one. The audio will still contain the effect from the previous application, or undo it later if you choose.

ahja · Post by **ahja** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:57 am

Cubase:

Right click wave file you wish to process > Process menu > Plugin-In menu ... set your tail ammount and waa-la. Processed wave file with no CPU overhaul, non-destructive too.

agrover · Post by **agrover** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:31 am

stale bread wrote:well what i use is Live 4 and it streams the wavs with effects on but I'd like to print the efx to the track and then turn the effect off or use another effect, i don't have sx but i'd like something like that in energy xt, and i might pick up this renoise if its the best thing i find since it's really geared towards the samplist it seems.

In Live 4, add an audio track and for the source select "Resample". Now record a clip of that track.

vtx · Post by **vtx** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:12 am

In Live 3 I add an effect, solo the track and render to disk,,then pull the file back in on another track,I hope I'm missin something but I don't see another way.
I don't mind though at least I can keep the original in the project.
Cool edit use to render to track,you would just choose the track number, kinda the same thing.
I wonder whether Audition expanded on that..

mark mcg · Post by **mark mcg** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 5:14 am

Logic and Sonar freeze tracks as well.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:58 am

All the main hosts do this. Whether it's called freezing or just plain bouncing. Freezing renders it to audio in one click, bouncing renders it to audio in several clicks. But all of the main hosts I know of will let you render to audio with FX applied. And none of them overwrite the original unless you ask them to. Maybe not all of them allow you to serially undo each step, but even the most basic host has some sort of directory that stores the audio files, so you can call up different versions with different FX recorded onto them.

Cubase, Sonar, Orion and all of the cut-down versions of those do this. Tracktion, Computer Muzys etc, likewise. I suspect you'd have to search pretty hard to find a host that doesn't let you record FX.

Peller · Post by **Peller** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:50 am

It's not that simple... in Cubase, Nuendo, Pro Tools etc you can apply effects off-line to a piece of audio, but that's not the same as freezing a track with effects. For a start, it doesn't incorporate any automation you might have on those effects.

As far as I know, Sonar 4 is the only application that handles this neatly. You can achieve the same results in most apps by soloing a track and bouncing it, but this is a bit tedious, especially in apps that don't support faster than real time bouncing.

haydxn · Post by **haydxn** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:01 pm

Tracktion does this:

select a track
click RENDER
click REPLACE

there you go, you have the track replaced with a fully rendered version including whatever effects you had at the end. this also includes instrument tracks.
if you click ADD RENDERED TRACKS then you have effectively a 'bounced' version alongside your original. replace does exactly what you're asking.

tracktion, of course, also lets you have effects on individual clips within a track.. endless possibilities!

Is There Any Other Host That Renders Efx in Place to Tracks