KVR Audio

vikse · Post by **vikse** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:28 pm

Whats the easiest way of connecting different midi tracks with different midi channels to one vsti in logic ?

I change the track so it "clones" in the mixer but there got to be a better way ?

best regards

splattabreakz · Post by **splattabreakz** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:08 pm

select the multi version of the instrument, go to the arrange, create a track, hold down on the track to select what kind of track it is, you should see the name of the instrument in the 'audio' list, select the channel and roberts your fathers brother.

VicDiesel · Post by **VicDiesel** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:19 pm

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meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:44 pm

One way (and I suppose the one that most people use) is to set the Audio Instrument Channel's MIDI channel to "All" and then cable a (MIDI) Multi Instrument object to the Audio Instrument Channel. Then use the Multi Instrument object and it's sub-channels in the Arrange.

The other way (and the one I prefer) is to make copies of the Audio Instrument Channel and set them to different MIDI channels each. I prefer that, because then you have always access to the Audio Instrument Channel, no matter which of the tracks playing it you have selected in the Arrange.

(I suppose the latter is what you meant by "clones in the mixer" anyway?)

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:49 pm

splattabreakz wrote:select the multi version of the instrument, go to the arrange, create a track, hold down on the track to select what kind of track it is, you should see the name of the instrument in the 'audio' list, select the channel and roberts your fathers brother.

Seems you read the thred title, but not the post.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:01 pm

dr.wackler wrote: The other way (and the one I prefer) is to make copies of the Audio Instrument Channel and set them to different MIDI channels each. I prefer that, because then you have always access to the Audio Instrument Channel, no matter which of the tracks playing it you have selected in the Arrange.

Same here. Most virtual instruments share their grafic and (if required) sample resources anyways if loaded more than once, so there's very little CPU overhead, if at all.
It's just becoming impossible in case you're using, say, the free versions of Sampletank or SonicSynth which can only be opened once per song.
In that case the multiinstrument thing is the only way to go.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:03 pm

Why is it so convoluted? Logic 7 is such an advanced host? I am puzzled at the level of difficulty required to do what in other hosts is a very simple operation.

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:03 am

Sascha Franck wrote:
dr.wackler wrote: The other way (and the one I prefer) is to make copies of the Audio Instrument Channel and set them to different MIDI channels each. I prefer that, because then you have always access to the Audio Instrument Channel, no matter which of the tracks playing it you have selected in the Arrange.
Same here. Most virtual instruments share their grafic and (if required) sample resources anyways if loaded more than once, so there's very little CPU overhead, if at all.
It's just becoming impossible in case you're using, say, the free versions of Sampletank or SonicSynth which can only be opened once per song.
In that case the multiinstrument thing is the only way to go.

Hehe, I guess you misunderstood: I don't actually create a new Audio Instrument channel. What I do is have multiple copies of one and the same Audio Instrument channel and set each copy just to another MIDI channel.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:09 am

dr.wackler wrote: Hehe, I guess you misunderstood: I don't actually create a new Audio Instrument channel. What I do is have multiple copies of one and the same Audio Instrument channel and set each copy just to another MIDI channel.

Oh, I see!
Well then, not a bad idea either.

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:13 am

Beardedone wrote:Why is it so convoluted? Logic 7 is such an advanced host? I am puzzled at the level of difficulty required to do what in other hosts is a very simple operation.

How many steps is it in the host you use? In Logic, once I've configured it to my preference, all I have to do is hit my single key command for "Create Track with next Instrument". Could it be easier than one step? Does Cubase do it as soon as you only think it?

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:37 am

Agreed there, I did it last night and it took me all of 30 seconds to set up. And I rarely do multitimbral stuff (ST2 is the only one I have...)

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:28 am

Sounds good. For a poweruser in Logic I am sure it's a breeze. I'm glad it is. I wonder how long a novice would need to get there.

I don't use Cubase and would never want to. I am a dyed in the wool Sonar and Fruity Loops user (yes I can hear your condescending laughs of derision). In Sonar it is a simple matter of loading the instrument an assigning tracks by patch. Then select audio outs as desired. I set up a full orchestral multi of GPO into two or three instances of Kontakt 1.52 in the time that it takes Kontakt to read all of the respective patches.

Please don't misread me here. I would be happy to love Logic and Macs. Please prove me wrong. I speak from my experience with Apple computers in my Postdoctoral work and later with Logic versions 4.8 -5.5. Both of these have proven to be huge disappointments for me hence my skepticism.

Note I mean disappointment in the computers not my postdoc work

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Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:28 am

Beardedone wrote:Why is it so convoluted? Logic 7 is such an advanced host? I am puzzled at the level of difficulty required to do what in other hosts is a very simple operation.

One reason is so that Logic's environment can be as flexible as it is. The user can set things up in many different ways according to how they work and what results they want.

It's really not that bad. It only takes a few seconds to do, and once it's done - it's done.

It actually speeds things up in the long run.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:30 am

One reason is so that Logic's environment can be as flexible as it is. The user can set things up in many different ways according to how they work and what results they want.

It's really not that bad. It only takes a few seconds to do, and once it's done - it's done.

It actually speeds things up in the long run.

I spent a few hours with a friend's version 5.5 and got nowhere. I can't imagine it taking second to learn.

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:37 am

Beardedone wrote:I am a dyed in the wool Sonar and Fruity Loops user (yes I can hear your condescending laughs of derision).

Not from me you won't.

I believe you should use whatever's the right one for you. If Sonar and FL fit the bill for you, then you've made the right choice.

I don't see any point in praising one host over another (or slagging of hosts) just because you like host A and I like host B.

As long as they work, and as long as music is made. That's what really counts.

Logic and multipleout vsti's,, easiest way to use them ?