old tape trick VS Nuendo (need help!!!)

[xavas]

Went to a studio the other day to record some vocals, the vocalist I was recording couldn't get to a high pitched note. has I was recording with tape, I slowed down the tape speed, hence diminuishing the pitch and speed of the song. That way he was able to record that high pitched part with no effort...

My question is: Is there anyway I could do the same thing in Nuendo?

I know I would get better results if I found a really good singer, but while no other is found...

Thanks...

[Stupid American Pig]

That is a common and handy trick with tape- it is also used with instruments when the parts are too fast to play live, they slow the tape 1/2 speed and play the part an octave lower. I dont know of a way to do it, though I would like to hear anyones suggesions...

[cold c]

My question is: Is there anyway I could do the same thing in Nuendo?

The pitch shift should provide similar functionality, just open the audio part in the sample editor, highlight the audio you want to pitch shift, right-click >> process >> pitch shift, choose the transpose tab for shifting the selected audio by a number of octaves/notes/cents or choose the envelope tab for adjusting the pitch in a curve of your choice. Change the settings and preview before you press process.

All should be in the manual in more detail, and more accurately as the above info is for SX.

[scandipandy]

in another host (not steinberg) I hold down shift while pressing play/record to half the speed of the playback/recording... nuendo should/could have this feature too.

[xavas]

The pitch shift should provide similar functionality, just open the audio part in the sample editor, highlight the audio you want to pitch shift, right-click >> process >> pitch shift, choose the transpose tab for shifting the selected audio by a number of octaves/notes/cents or choose the envelope tab for adjusting the pitch in a curve of your choice. Change the settings and preview before you press process.

That's one way of getting the job done, but you'll have to mixdown all of the tracks, then record the new one, and then you'll have to apply the same amout of pitch shifting, but in "inverse direction", to the new one, in order to get all in tune... I doubt the results will be good...

That's fine when you want to change the pitch, and don't think in putting it back where it was...

Thank's anyway!!

Anyone else has more suggestions ?!?

[meister eder]

Setting the DAW to a "wrong" sample rate will do the trick.

[cold c]

The pitch shift should provide similar functionality, just open the audio part in the sample editor, highlight the audio you want to pitch shift, right-click >> process >> pitch shift, choose the transpose tab for shifting the selected audio by a number of octaves/notes/cents or choose the envelope tab for adjusting the pitch in a curve of your choice. Change the settings and preview before you press process.

That's one way of getting the job done, but you'll have to mixdown all of the tracks, then record the new one, and then you'll have to apply the same amout of pitch shifting, but in "inverse direction", to the new one, in order to get all in tune... I doubt the results will be good...

That's fine when you want to change the pitch, and don't think in putting it back where it was...

I thought you said you just wanted one "high pitched note"?? Just record that specific note in a lower octave and pitch up.

Or you can do it the way you described for a complete performance.

[cold c]

Or alternatively, just put a pitch shift plugin like tobybear's madshifta on the main outs to temporarily reduce the pitch of the track, (and create another output bus for monitoring the vocal being recorded).

Then bypass the madshifta plugin and pitch up the vocal.

[Kim Lajoie]

Setting the DAW to a "wrong" sample rate will do the trick.

Doesn't work if you're using virtual instruments.

Forever,




Kim.

[meister eder]

Setting the DAW to a "wrong" sample rate will do the trick.

Doesn't work if you're using virtual instruments.

Talking about "tape" I assume that Xavas uses audiofiles only.

However, you can also make it work when using virtual instruments. What you have to do is lock the SMPTE time of all the audio files, then calculate the tempo change that will be involved by changing the sample rate and change the tempo accordingly. You might have to add some lenght to some of the audio regions to adapt to the slower tempo when pitched down.
Oh well, and you'd have to globally pitch down the instruments manually, which can be a bit of a hassle depending on what host you use - but then, we're far off from the "tape trick" already anyway...

You could of course also make life a lot easier and simply freeze the virtual instruments before you change the sample rate.

[Guitarjeff]

You could always try the "Vicegrip" plugin........

[meister eder]

You could always try the "Vicegrip" plugin........

What's that?

[Guitarjeff]

You could always try the "Vicegrip" plugin........

What's that?

Just a really bad joke at 4 A.M. PST. Sorry....

[efluon]

use the resample offline process. this is equivalent to the tape speed changing

[kritikon]

dr.wackler wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote:
You could always try the "Vicegrip" plugin........


What's that?


Just a really bad joke at 4 A.M. PST. Sorry....

I'm assuming this is the age old way of getting singers to sing alot higher than they normally can. Think anatomy and then think, squeeze them hard