Delta SP. Is it useable?

[deltasp]

I wrote a program called Delta SP. It's listed in the hosts section. Has anyone tried it. What is the main drawback/s of the program? Is it worth using. Did you ever make a song with it. I'd like to hear feedback of any nature.

[CapDan(X)]

Has anyone tried it? - Yes

Is it worth using? - Yes

Is it usable? - No

Did you ever make a song with it? - No



Delta SP is a good free host with a lot of features but lacks of usability. So keep it going on ...
(I'll send you a list of bugs and suggestions)

[maximilians1]

I tried it out a while back, I had trouble figuring out how to set up the directX latency, which kinda gotr sorted out ?, and a lot of vsts didn't function properly for me(stuck notes), maybe taht was 3 months ago or more?. One thing I didn't like was the GUI or general graphics ,it looks kinda window 95 ish to me.
I never finished a song with it, it just didn't really suit me .

[deltasp]

Sounds interesting. It's nice to see people have used it.

I'm planning to port the whole thing to c++ from pascal, but thats a big maybe. I just wonder which route to take, the big sequencer type thing, or a modular thing where you can make your own sequencer from different parts.

Anyway thanks for the replies so far. Food for thought.

[Lunch Money]

Deciding which direction to take it will depend entirely on what your predicted client base will be. You'll generate more buzz on KvR with a modular style host, but we're only a small part of the world. There are a lot of people out there who have never even HEARD of an internet forum that are Googling for "computer recording software", and if you give them a traditional package at a good price, you may well discover that there are more clients out there for that sort of thing.

SO, I guess at the end of the day it depends on your objective. Jorgen of eXT made the move from traditional to modular, and while it's been a slow build-up (not the code, which comes rapidly, but the user base!) he now has a fairly large and dedicated customer base. If you want to do something similar, and build up a slow burn around a unique product, then expect it to be just that-- slow.

If you want to make a product that the average person can pick up and start making music with right out of the box, you'd be well served by making a traditional sequencer.

That said, I haven't actually tried the software yet (sorry!). But having a look at it because of this thread is making me think, "Damn! Looks like the beginning of a great thing!" When I clear up some time to try it out, I'll report back to you. Sounds quite interesting, though. I'm curious about the built-in sampler.

Greg

[Rockypop]

Hi
I tried this for some hours. I look for something like AudioMulch, but with a good sequencer , where I can use my plugins, record, have a good sequencer etc, to make "raw" loops (I put my loops in Ableton Live). Well, I saw this guy and liked what I saw: it got almost everything, but there are some latency problems and sometimes I get hangups (havent tried to record). With better graphics, less latency I'll go for it Good luck!

[deltasp]

If you want to make a product that the average person can pick up and start making music with right out of the box, you'd be well served by making a traditional sequencer.

Greg

I thought about your suggestions and went for the out of the box style and made it all as easy as possible(I Think). It worked out well in the end with a much better program. Thanks.

[Lunch Money]

No worries! Glad to hear that taking it in that direction has proven a pleasant experience for you.

Greg

[ModuLR]

wow.. you really did make a few adjustments! Visually it's much more appealing. I think you're definately stepping in the right direction. It reminds me of Massiva in many ways now, combined with an interesting take on modularity. Keep at it!

[Rockypop]

Hi

I'we been testing Delta Sp and a lot other Studio/tracker software. It stands between Aodix and Delta SP. My first impression was Nice looks better than last version. But latency? It took 3 sec to get any reaktion ...Ok so I have to dig deep down and adjust some parameters. After 10-15 min of work its Ok. Im not that experienced and most of us are not? So just make a nice default adjustment plz Graphics looks better but Aodix looks best. Study, no sharp color, no sharp corners etc. I really like your product, so thats why I write and I will probably buy it. It got all what I need: I can build my Vst set, has a good sequencer etc. Im happy

[deltasp]

Hi

I'we been testing Delta Sp and a lot other Studio/tracker software. It stands between Aodix and Delta SP. My first impression was Nice looks better than last version. But latency? It took 3 sec to get any reaktion ...Ok so I have to dig deep down and adjust some parameters. After 10-15 min of work its Ok. Im not that experienced and most of us are not? So just make a nice default adjustment plz Graphics looks better but Aodix looks best. Study, no sharp color, no sharp corners etc. I really like your product, so thats why I write and I will probably buy it. It got all what I need: I can build my Vst set, has a good sequencer etc. Im happy

I'm glad you liked it. Sorry about the latency thing, it's just that those settings make it better for a wide variety of soundcards and onboard sound, I'll try to figure out a more user friendly way. Anyway, there is a new version coming out this week with two very serious errors fixed, so maybe I can hold it a little longer and put a "user friendly" latency setup there. The way it is now, I can get down to 20ms with just plain onbaoard sound on a 1GHZ PC. But thanks again, and I'll try to make it easier to adjust if possible.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

Hi.
I have really been interested in this project. I love the modular synthesis combined with sequencer idea, and I would like to dig into it a bit more. what I find problematic is that several vst pluggins would not function, or would crash the program. I also found the arangement window difficult to deal with. But I want you to know that this program has some very serious potential!
Now that I am through exams I am going to give it another shot.
cheers.

[jens]

I tried DeltaSP once agaian - Wow - nice change -now I realized how powerful it is

but:

I have problems with coming to gripes with the sequencer - is it correct that eack track can only contain one pattern? (so that e.g. if I want to have an alternative pattern for a kick-drum I have to use another track? ) - edit: I just found out that's nosense - but how can I tell one from the other - how can I easily exchange one pattern with another? - I guess I still need to adjust myself to its philosophy

Also it seems that DeltaSP doesn't support automation - is that correct?

But all in all it's very impressive and promising to say the least.

[deltasp]

I tried DeltaSP once agaian - Wow - nice change -now I realized how powerful it is

but:

I have problems with coming to gripes with the sequencer - is it correct that eack track can only contain one pattern? (so that e.g. if I want to have an alternative pattern for a kick-drum I have to use another track? ) - edit: I just found out that's nosense - but how can I tell one from the other - how can I easily exchange one pattern with another? - I guess I still need to adjust myself to its philosophy

Also it seems that DeltaSP doesn't support automation - is that correct?

But all in all it's very impressive and promising to say the least.

Seems a good idea, I'll try put pattern based tracks in soon. It's also the only way to get decent "audio" tracks in as well for pro-recording and mastering. It's easier to edit a fully written song without parts in some cases, but much easier to write one with parts.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

Hi;
Just been playing with DeltaSP again for a couple of days now. I love the new interface. the black is REALLY nice, and the loop/transport is easier to see and figure out. I like this alot.
Also, the built in modular synth has really amazing sound. Your oscillators and filters are really outstanding!
I only have one question; I have some real problems with stability that are keeping me from working on anything serious. I get crashes all the time. Mostly when trying to replace a synth/SCD/vst.
I am on AthlonXP 1900+, 512meg DDR RAM, ASrock K7M2V mobo, and M Audio Delta 44 sound card, as well as an SB Live running Kx project driver.
Thanx for the cool software.
when and if you can get this nicely stable, I will consider investing. I will keep testing the free version till then, though.