Sonic Reality

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:46 pm

Hi guys,

Yesterday I moved the Instruments folder in Sampletank2 to a new hard drive. I changed the root folder in the St2 preferences. Everything works as expected except for one thing. Now the categories do not appear in the right order in the St2 browser.. they are not in alphabetical order. Well, they are, but going from bottom to top instead of top to bottom..

Before:

Brass
Drums
Effects
etc...

Now:

Effects
Drums
Brass

Brass should be the first category listed in the browser, but becomes the last instead..

Have any of you moved your instrument folder? Is there another file I am suppose to move over as well?

Thanks guys

Hengy · Post by **Hengy** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:08 pm

i moved mine, and it appears fine, in alphabetical order. did you click 'relist' ?

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:10 pm

Yes indeed. I hit relist, I hit all. I even closed the computer down, restarted it, and reopened Fl Studio. Reinserted St2 and categories are still messed up. Very weird.. it worked for you hey.. I wonder if it has something to do with my hard drive ( USB Lacie harddrive ).

Weird indeed. Thanks for letting me know it works for you.

kz1m9w · Post by **kz1m9w** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:04 pm

FYI: I wrote Sonic Reality about this very issue, but I'm thinking you may be mis-diagnosing it.

There appears to be a problem if you move your sounds to some place other than the drive (or maybe even folder?) where Sampletank's engine expects them to be by default.

For me, I moved them from my main drive's OS partition to my main drive's "SAMP" partition I had created. Once there, even after relisting, they no longer appear in alphabetical order like they used to.

In addition, they are not necessarily in reverse order either. Mine are not anyway.

I think the Sonic Reality folks were going to be contacting some of the IK people to see if they could submit it as a bug to be fixed at some later point.

You might also want to write an e-mail telling of your situation since it does appear to be what happens.

Again, I believe the problem stated is as follows:

When using a product like Sampletank 2 XL, if the sample sounds are moved to a drive other than the drive where the plug-in is installed, the sounds will no longer necessarily appear in alphabetical order. Relisting does not resolve the issue.

Hope this helps. If anyone has an contrary information or futher insight, please speak up.
Randy

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:19 am

This doesn't help you much but I moved my sounds from C: to E: and Sampletank is installed on C: and I am not seeing this problem. I also just completed a little test to see if the order of display was controlled by the folders settings. I tried both size as well as date modified as the sorting criteria within the folder and neither had any affect on the listing within Sampletank whether I relisted or not.

Dan

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 4:48 pm

Thanks for checking on that for me.. is your E drive a USB hard drive or is it built in to your computer?

Thanks again!

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Sun Jan 09, 2005 5:07 pm

pheeleep wrote: is your E drive a USB hard drive or is it built in to your computer?

It's "built in"
C: OS & apps drive 80 gig 7200rpm
D: CDRW
E: Data 160 gig 7200 rpm

Dan

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:32 am

hmm.. problem must have to do with external hard drives.. thanks again for your help.

kz1m9w · Post by **kz1m9w** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:24 am

pheeleep wrote:hmm.. problem must have to do with external hard drives.. thanks again for your help.

I disagree. I myself see the problem using all internal hard drives (none external, none USB). See above for details.

Maybe its worth noting the following:

1) I'm using Windows 2000
2) I'm using FAT32 (not NTFS).

What about you others with the problem?

Randy

bnmoore · Post by **bnmoore** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 8:15 am

A couple of things that might be worth a try:

Verify that your InstrumentPath= line is correct in your ST2Pref.txt file located in the ST2Pref subdirectory. It probably will match your root folder in the plugin Prefs but you never know. Stanger things have happened.

Delete your ST2InstrCache.dat file. It will be re-created on next launch. (Which may take a while).

asseca · Post by **asseca** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:13 pm

On my machine ( winXP ) sorting is fine on a NTFS partition, but on a FAT32 partition the sorting is all fouled up. It makes no difference on partition the DLL and VPA files are located.

kz1m9w · Post by **kz1m9w** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:20 pm

bnmoore wrote:A couple of things that might be worth a try:

Verify that your InstrumentPath= line is correct in your ST2Pref.txt file located in the ST2Pref subdirectory. It probably will match your root folder in the plugin Prefs but you never know. Stanger things have happened.

Delete your ST2InstrCache.dat file. It will be re-created on next launch. (Which may take a while).

Yes, done both of those things. Didn't fix it. However, see, my next posting on this thread.

kz1m9w · Post by **kz1m9w** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:23 pm

asseca wrote:On my machine ( winXP ) sorting is fine on a NTFS partition, but on a FAT32 partition the sorting is all fouled up. It makes no difference on partition the DLL and VPA files are located.

Now THAT sounds like we've found an answer.

It sounds like we have a much better theory now... Sampletank doesn't play nice with FAT32 (at least not when it comes to listing the instrument structure in alphabetical order).

I will send an e-mail to IK and see if they can look into it deeper.

Thanks!
Randy

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 7:31 pm

What this Fat/NTSF stuff..

What does it mean? Is it possible to change from one to another without screwing up stuff?

No idea what this means..

bnmoore · Post by **bnmoore** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:00 pm

If you're running XP you can find a fairly detailed description in Windows Help | "converting partitions to NTFS, formatting partitions versus".

You can check your Lacie by right clicking on the drive and selecting "Properties". The File system is beneath "Type".

Did you format your drive or was it pre-formatted?

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Moving St2 Instrument folder to new hard drive