KVR Audio

setAI · Post by **setAI** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:33 pm

does anyone know if there is some way to make FL display the waveform for audio tracks that are streamed from the disc? most apps do this automatically- but FL only wants to display the waveforms for waves that a re actually loaded into RAM- I don't get this- but it has been rather annoying- [I couldn't really find any info about this on Looptalk]

also- is there a way to force FL5 to load a long audio track instead of streaming them? I have a gig of RAM- but FL seems to force me to stream audio tracks that are over a few minutes in length- even though i've got plenty of memory to load in larger tracks- [toggling off the "keep on disk" button doesn't seem to work for long tracks- if FL makes it stream it won't let me toggle the button]

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:41 pm

in the channel settings window uncheck keep on disk

>v^<^^ · Post by **>v^<^^** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:11 pm

setAI wrote:does anyone know if there is some way to make FL display the waveform for audio tracks that are streamed from the disc? most apps do this automatically- but FL only wants to display the waveforms for waves that a re actually loaded into RAM- I don't get this- but it has been rather annoying- [I couldn't really find any info about this on Looptalk]

There's currently no way to view the waveform for audio files streamed from disk, nor is there any way to stream mono audio files.

If FL isn't letting you load a long file into RAM, then maybe you really don't have enough. Make sure to close all other apps and try stripping Windows down a bit.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:52 pm

if FL makes it stream it won't let me toggle the button

why not? Can't see any reason for the switch not to be switchable

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:33 am

yeah I wish there was a way to display with out loading to memory. But I think most apps that display waveforms make a small file with the wave info, like CoolEdit/Audition makes the pk file and cubase makes some other file. I wouldnt mind FL to make one and give us the waveform display in return. Or it could store the info on the FLP file too, whatever works.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:44 am

But I think most apps that display waveforms make a small file with the wave info

To build that file, you need to.. load the full waveform, which defeats the keep on disk by default.
True, it'd help for the next times you'll load your project. But it'll also leave nasty peak files like most audio editors do (do you like them?). Also with a peak file, you won't be able to zoom close on your waveform, without.. yes, loading it.

Seriously, if you have 1GB RAM, you can load 100min of CD-quality audio. So if you don't need more, you have no reason to keep audio files on disk. Why is it on by default then? Because if it was loading the file, it would make no sense to later keep it on disk, as it's in memory already.

Now because of so many problem reports, the keep on disk feature will probably disappear in the future. Or be switched off by default.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:57 am

ug I hate those pesky little files Audition leaves all over the place. Is there a way to get Audition to stop making them? I know they make the program program process faster, but they really annoy me for some reason.

mdr · Post by **mdr** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:30 am

Chase wrote:ug I hate those pesky little files Audition leaves all over the place. Is there a way to get Audition to stop making them? I know they make the program program process faster, but they really annoy me for some reason.

You can delete them or you can deselect the Save Peak Cache Files option in the Settings dialog window.The only thing that will happen is for larger files to re-open more slowly.

mdr.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:32 am

Chase wrote:ug I hate those pesky little files Audition leaves all over the place. Is there a way to get Audition to stop making them? I know they make the program program process faster, but they really annoy me for some reason.

yeah they cause so many provlems

kode_poet · Post by **kode_poet** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:07 pm

So there is no way to display the waveform with out loading the file to memory? I think it would be cool to load the file into memory, building a temporary "snapshot" of what the wave looks like, unloading the file, and loading another one. Even if the project loads slower, it will give us something to work with. And yeah, the peak files are annoying.

Jaeson Merrill · Post by **Jaeson Merrill** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:28 pm

i would say

newbie enhancement: "keep on disk" box switched off by default, regardless of file size.

dunk · Post by **dunk** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:32 pm

I always thought Cool Edit/Audition should have provided an option to store the peak files in a specific driectory instead of in the same directory as the audio file itself. e.g. if you stored them in Program Files\Audition\Cache\Peak Files or something, then that would have made everything a lot cleaner.

I think the waveform cahces could be a useful addition to FL - especially if it was an option you could toggle, scanned the file as a background process and allowed you to specify which directory you want to use to store the files (either with each wav/mp3 or all in specific dir).

As FL has a max zoom level in the Playlist, the files need not be huge.

still - only a minor thing really - I tend to load all my samples into RAM

regards,
dunk

Cordelia · Post by **Cordelia** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:43 pm

I like the option to stream long files from disk. Please just make it off by default.

tony tony chopper · Post by **tony tony chopper** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 4:54 pm

unloading the file, and loading another one

But would this still make sense today while you could just keep the file in memory - we all have enough RAM for that.
The only idea behind this on today's systems is that it avoids loading the file, thus saves a little time.

newbie enhancement: "keep on disk" box switched off by default, regardless of file size.

unfortunately, it's what I'll be soon asked to do

I like the option to stream long files from disk. Please just make it off by default.

then what's the point? You just loaded your track, now what's the point of streaming it from disk, it's in your RAM already!
Is your RAM the problem? How much do you have? If you have 256mb or less I can understand, though.

fishbowl.tucson.az · Post by **fishbowl.tucson.az** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:48 pm

gol wrote:
unloading the file, and loading another one
But would this still make sense today while you could just keep the file in memory - we all have enough RAM for that.

How many 4 minute, 24-bit audio tracks can you keep in RAM?

FL- display waveform for streaming audio