2005,Hardware effect company finally gets the picture
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- KVRian
- 954 posts since 15 Dec, 2000 from NY,NY,USA
For the life of me,I cannot understand why hardware effect companies didn't start doing this 3 years ago http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM05 ... MX200.html and why other still dont.Not sure about this particular Lex unit,or USB instead of FireWire but at least one company got the picture.
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- KVRAF
- 4738 posts since 20 Feb, 2004 from Gothenburg, Sweden
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Since when did the UAD or TC cards work standalone as well?
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 954 posts since 15 Dec, 2000 from NY,NY,USA
TC came out with the FireWire Poco standalone box about 2 years ago,props to them,but it is an all-in-one effects box,not a specialized dedicated box.Why other suffering hardware companies didn't follow the lead is beyond me,hence my point.Apart from TC,Lexicon did what they should have done a couple of years ago.Lets hope other companies get the picture.Even better,lets hope someone develops a DYI kit for older hardware with some generic GUI's.[ Lex ] wrote:what about UAD and TC ???
they have done it for years...
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"Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." - Albert Einstein
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 23 Jul, 2001 from Jersey Is Where America's At
This is going to be the new trend in hardware. This will lock people into buying the hardware, thus preventing piracy, but also benefit from the ease of use as well as things like patch recall, saved settings in projects, etc., that we get in plug-ins. Expect to see a lot more of this. Too bad this isn't a really high-end Lexi-verb. But it'll probably blow the pants off the Pantheon verb (which is terrible).
This is too late though, between Princeton Digital's 2016 (which is fantastic and I still need to get around to buying), and the DSP verbs, I'm wonder if someone needs a mediocre Lexicon verb when there's actually some really good software verbs on the market now. Still I imagine this will still be a pretty good verb.
This is too late though, between Princeton Digital's 2016 (which is fantastic and I still need to get around to buying), and the DSP verbs, I'm wonder if someone needs a mediocre Lexicon verb when there's actually some really good software verbs on the market now. Still I imagine this will still be a pretty good verb.
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 954 posts since 15 Dec, 2000 from NY,NY,USA
Well,maybe a little late for a medocre hardware verb,but it does open the door for all kinds of possibilities,and more importantly,competition,hopefully.Funkybot wrote:This is too late though, between Princeton Digital's 2016 (which is fantastic and I still need to get around to buying), and the DSP verbs, I'm wonder if someone needs a mediocre Lexicon verb when there's actually some really good software verbs on the market now.
"Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." - Albert Einstein
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 954 posts since 15 Dec, 2000 from NY,NY,USA
Anyone hear this thing yet? After a quick search I noticed it's only going for $200.00 at JRR Shop http://www.jrrshop.com/product_info.php ... ts_id=5157 and Sweetwater as well.I was going to get the PoCo just for the included verbs(not really interested in anything else availible for the card or Sony's Prices) ,but even though this Lex is obviously a lower end consumer unit it might be better for just that(reverb).Looks like I might make one of my ultra rare appearences at the local GC or Sam Ash and hopefully I can hear it over the shredders( 
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)."Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal." - Albert Einstein
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- KVRist
- 127 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Denmark
My guess is you can only have one VST instance with this unit, or perhaps two with dual channel? With PoCo how many verbs can you use simultaneously? Isn't it 8? Well, like you I am considering a used PoCo just for the verbs. Are they that good?
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- KVRian
- 692 posts since 10 Apr, 2004
Nice concept, but a little too late.. It all boils down to 'a better mouse-trap at a better price'. And it seems like 'CPU load' will soon be a thing of the past too with the new bread of processors they are talking about these days..ttoz wrote:yeah this will be the first true lexicon reverb with next to nothing cpu load for native systems, as well as being standalone. very very cool. props to Lex.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 23 Jul, 2001 from Jersey Is Where America's At
Has anyone heard this thing yet? I don't imagine Lexicon is giving up the goods and giving away one of their best reverb algo's at $200, but it may be worth it (assuming it's a lot better than the Pantheon). I don't get why they don't just charge $500 for one of these things, skimp out on the other effects, and just give us a really really nice hardware/software hybrid reverb. Hopefully my assumptions that this thing is below par of better Lexi units is wrong, but it wouldn't make much sense financially for the company otherwise. Still, it's a good idea. I'd prefer a reasonably priced reverb specific box with some really good verbs over a DSP card, just for the added flexibility of also having hardware.
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.
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- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
HI
Having had many a disturbed nights sleep over going software and losing/selling a whole studio of hardware I don't personally fancy returning to a rack load of external hardware re-packaged to integrate with my computer - saying that I do have a Poco card in my PC and might have gone for the firewire version but I would not wish to end up with multiple external units again.
I think they serve a valid purpose as many people are probably still underpowered cpu wise, but saying that everyones next computer upgrade will probably make these units pretty well redundent - unless they are offering sofware that is so cutting edge as to leave current software in its wake - can't imagine what that might be though?
Maybe the next generation Virus?
Flipper.
Having had many a disturbed nights sleep over going software and losing/selling a whole studio of hardware I don't personally fancy returning to a rack load of external hardware re-packaged to integrate with my computer - saying that I do have a Poco card in my PC and might have gone for the firewire version but I would not wish to end up with multiple external units again.
I think they serve a valid purpose as many people are probably still underpowered cpu wise, but saying that everyones next computer upgrade will probably make these units pretty well redundent - unless they are offering sofware that is so cutting edge as to leave current software in its wake - can't imagine what that might be though?
Maybe the next generation Virus?
Flipper.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 12 Oct, 2004
I totally agree with you, Flipper.
I have Athlon64 3400+ and I rarely max it out, usually if I overload it with VST instruments, but usually I`m at 50% (30-70% range).
Also have EMU EmuilatorX wit 1212m card, which utilizes hardware DSP, which helps me to almost completely allocate insert compressors and so...
New technologies which utilizes networking multiple computers (sudio over LAN etc.) and workstations with 2 or even more processors (Opteron, Xeon...) are more than affordable for serious studio production (and home studio production, because you can found these machines from 1500 USD+).
I sold almost all mine outbooards, levelling to PC, Yamaha unit using as mic/guitar compressor, Ensoniq KS32 as master keyboard, old JV880 (I cannot sell id:) and small mixer.
Do I need more hardware FX, when I`ll buy a new CPU or mobo/CPU in a year, costing me like few hundred bucks and offering me maybe 30-70% more performance?
Personally, I think I`ll never buy hardware units again.
But, I do not have to show off my studio potentials and to flash my customers with gear, like I had to do 10 years ago...
I have Athlon64 3400+ and I rarely max it out, usually if I overload it with VST instruments, but usually I`m at 50% (30-70% range).
Also have EMU EmuilatorX wit 1212m card, which utilizes hardware DSP, which helps me to almost completely allocate insert compressors and so...
New technologies which utilizes networking multiple computers (sudio over LAN etc.) and workstations with 2 or even more processors (Opteron, Xeon...) are more than affordable for serious studio production (and home studio production, because you can found these machines from 1500 USD+).
I sold almost all mine outbooards, levelling to PC, Yamaha unit using as mic/guitar compressor, Ensoniq KS32 as master keyboard, old JV880 (I cannot sell id:) and small mixer.
Do I need more hardware FX, when I`ll buy a new CPU or mobo/CPU in a year, costing me like few hundred bucks and offering me maybe 30-70% more performance?
Personally, I think I`ll never buy hardware units again.
But, I do not have to show off my studio potentials and to flash my customers with gear, like I had to do 10 years ago...
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