KVR Audio

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:29 pm

Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*

Spe3D · Post by **Spe3D** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:33 pm

joehaann wrote:Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*

It would be a stupid thing to do – quite often the software writes id into your music files – so its pretty easy to tell who has used what – when and if it’s a legal version or not.

Take a look at the MS issue, not to mention sample stamps etc.

Something to think about

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:40 pm

not to mention everyone here will come down on you with a mighty wrath.

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:43 am

any info on these sample stamps anywhere? googled, but i cant seem to find any info

really could use the info, tis for a school essay

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:46 pm

can i safely assume this whole samplestamp id-tag thing was bullshit, since noone is replying? (:

quincy · Post by **quincy** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:11 pm

I'd suggest you hit google and search for "sample authentication" or similar, you're bound to find something.

Good luck with the work.

serge · Post by **serge** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:21 pm

joehaann wrote:Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*

Hey Joehaann, stealing is not the answer. Spread your wealth, convert your illegal software collection into legal by sending lots of money to all the happy developers who made those appz for you!! Spread the

!!

serge

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:23 pm

I'm not sure what sample stamps are beyond the MS thing. And even then, they were only discovered because the tag said "Zone Team." Had it been some form of keygen crack no one would've had know.

I doubt the likely hood of being caught is high, but if releasing the music is important to you, probably wise not take the risk. Aside from the ethical/moral reasons not to use illegal software, a general approach to any situation with possible legal implications is to always keep yourself beyond reproach.

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:41 pm

serge wrote:
joehaann wrote:Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*
Hey Joehaann, stealing is not the answer. Spread your wealth, convert your illegal software collection into legal by sending lots of money to all the happy developers who made those appz for you!! Spread the !!

serge

this wasnt the issue really, cuz it doesn't concern me (besides for the essay)

but yea, apart from that, i do have some stuff here - but my intention was to buy software when i have the money (being a student, and not a rich one tbh) and send it to a -regular- label.. whats the point of netlabels anyway.

useruseruser · Post by **useruseruser** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:07 pm

joehaann wrote:Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*

Yes! Definately.

Imagine the following situation:
You use a cracked version of Cubase SX, a cracked Version of Vanguard and Kontkt and a cracked version of Ozone.

Then your songs have all a signature (smart encoded sample stamp each 44100 samples) whit the crack IDs of all the software and your name (loaded from your registry) and your IP.

If anyone playes or downloades your file on his computer, then the signatures are transmitted to Microsoft and then directly shipped to a consortium (not named here).

Then you get a visit from some strange lookin people with black clothes soon for sure ...

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:21 pm

jackle&hyde wrote:
joehaann wrote:Lo,

was wondering if anyone knows about netlabels and 'legal issues', with this i mean; is it possible for anyone to release tracks on a netlabel that are made with software not legally obtained?

*curious*
Yes! Definately.

Imagine the following situation:
You use a cracked version of Cubase SX, a cracked Version of Vanguard and Kontkt and a cracked version of Ozone.

Then your songs have all a signature (smart encoded sample stamp each 44100 samples) whit the crack IDs of all the software and your name (loaded from your registry) and your IP.

If anyone playes or downloades your file on his computer, then the signatures are transmitted to Microsoft and then directly shipped to a consortium (not named here).

Then you get a visit from some strange lookin people with black clothes soon for sure ...

are you taking the piss? why in gods name send it to MS

ah.. hell, nevermind, i'll write some other shit to fill up / complete my work.. cant be arsed

thanks anyway (:

joehaann · Post by **joehaann** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:21 pm

doublepost. a job well done, bloody slowlord ISP.

useruseruser · Post by **useruseruser** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:33 pm

Coady · Post by **Coady** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:57 pm

Oh my god hyde,
For a sec there I thought you meant what you said.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:57 pm

It's not Microsoft the sample stamps are sent to.