Since I use Kontakt and Logic's sampler and assuming they both use this "less efficient" method (is this correct?) would I be better off turning off disk streaming? After all I have 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM and don't plan on using enormous samples (the Malmsjo grand is my biggest) so would I get better performance without it?With current technological limitations, samplers introduce an interesting wrinkle. Many samplers employ some form of disk streaming technology to work around today's RAM limitations. However, it is difficult if not impossible to fetch data from the disk "just in time" when a user starts playing a note. It's a solvable problem, but the technology that is required to combine instant note-on latency with disk streaming has patent protection (by Tascam, for Gigasampler). An attempt to not accidentally infringe on the patent or a desire to avoid paying licensing fees results in few soft-sampler vendors that actually use disk streaming in its most efficient form.
Disk streaming - on or off?
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- KVRAF
- 37439 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Just been reading the Cakewalk 64 bit white paper and came across this:
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I've only had a little think about it but running from RAM -- if you have enough -- can't be less efficient than running from disk.
Obviously, if you've "only just" enough, you may discover it's not really enough
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"Enough" means you're not slowing down processing of other tasks by using up all the RAM. You also need to worry about using Swap space rather than RAM, of course - perhaps turn off swap entirely. (Again, if you've got enough RAM.)
Thanks for posting that, though, it does help clarify René's position over sfz.
Obviously, if you've "only just" enough, you may discover it's not really enough
."Enough" means you're not slowing down processing of other tasks by using up all the RAM. You also need to worry about using Swap space rather than RAM, of course - perhaps turn off swap entirely. (Again, if you've got enough RAM.)
Thanks for posting that, though, it does help clarify René's position over sfz.
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
You will always get better performance without disk streaming, if you have the RAM, so yes...aMUSEd wrote: Since I use Kontakt and Logic's sampler and assuming they both use this "less efficient" method (is this correct?) would I be better off turning off disk streaming? After all I have 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM and don't plan on using enormous samples (the Malmsjo grand is my biggest) so would I get better performance without it?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 37439 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
What's that then?pljones wrote: Thanks for posting that, though, it does help clarify René's position over sfz.
I have the free version - which mode is best for that? (I assume 32bit but not streaming)
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- KVRAF
- 1799 posts since 26 Jul, 2002 from New York
Interesting . . .
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
René won't add streaming support for sfz format mapped samples.aMUSEd wrote:What's that then?
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- KVRist
- 155 posts since 26 Jun, 2004 from Melbourne, Australia
…and since he's now aligned with Cakewalk it all seems to be for good reason: if you want to use massive samples in sfz then it'll soon be possible (provided you can afford that required amount of RAM!pljones wrote:René won't add streaming support for sfz format mapped samples.aMUSEd wrote:What's that then?
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- KVRAF
- 4707 posts since 16 Mar, 2004 from Columbia, MD
That's probably true, but GS3 apparently is more of a downgrade than anything else. Everyone who I've talked to that uses it in a professional setting, most of them being previous GS2.5 (and earlier) users, say that it's HORRIBLY buggy, causes massive system errors + crashes, and is wildly CPU inefficient.
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- KVRian
- 723 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from C@L
Completely expected. I think I hit this one on the nail: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... highlight=GS3 apparently is more of a downgrade than anything else.