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The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:37 pm

What is the oldest song containing the amen break that you know of (besides the original of coarse)?

"Plug - Drum n Bass for Papa" was made in 1995, but I know that Dj Hype used it before that.

I'm just curious to see who can find the oldest Amen track.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:48 pm

its an LTJ Bukem track called...

[quick google later]

Music

http://www.beatfreax.nl/artist/LTJ_Bukem.html

LTJ can also be accredited for bringing the Amen breakbeat to the scene. His release of "Music" contained a sample from a gospel instrumental, The Winstons' "Amen Brother," a perfect combination to go with LTJ's taste for melodic strings and keyboards. That breakbeat found on "Music," labeled "Amens," became the breakbeat of choice for every producer, as the term has now come to signify any type of breakbeat contained in a drum and bass track.

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:49 pm

Used on Straight Outta Compton wasn't it? That's 1989/

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:52 pm

That funny I was thinking about this just yesterday.

Now I know it goes back as far NWA's 'Straight Out Of Compton'. So I guess it down to who can now name a tune before that.

Barbed Wire Kiss · Post by **Barbed Wire Kiss** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:53 pm

shamann wrote:Used on Straight Outta Compton wasn't it? That's 1989/

Bugger! Too slow

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:55 pm

shamann wrote:Used on Straight Outta Compton wasn't it? That's 1989/

hey! so it was

http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jse ... sbid=lc03b

but the bukem track it the first jungle track to use it and spawn an entire genre by itself

3*s · Post by **3*s** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:55 pm

If we're talking dance music, there must've been some big beat track that used it before the dnb guys.

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:57 pm

ltj's music single was in 1993

its not even the first speeded up version of amen - jungle had been going for a long time before then

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:57 pm

3*s wrote:If we're talking dance music, there must've been some big beat track that used it before the dnb guys.

as in 70s big beat??

jungle's been around since about 1989 with peshay and groovrider DJ'ing brutal hardcore

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:03 pm

A bit of googling turned up King of the Beats by Mantronix, c. 1988.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:10 pm

when was "Stretched on you Grave" released, by Sinead O'Connor? That's the break you mean, right?

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:10 pm

shamann wrote:A bit of googling turned up King of the Beats by Mantronix, c. 1988.

git

http://www.futureproducers.com/dictiona ... wordid/442

I am sure there will be something on Ishkur's but i cant find it yet

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:10 pm

Google also tells me that Bukem first used it in 91 on Demons Theme. Discuss.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:11 pm

I know it was used in Hip Hop before DnB. Can anyone find an amen track made before "Strait Outta Compton"?

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:13 pm

shamann wrote:Google also tells me that Bukem first used it in 91 on Demons Theme. Discuss.

I think that might've been the one i was thinking of. Its in my rough guide to breakbeat music, but that is buried in a box with about 10,000,000 other books.

I wonder if the break is in one of the lessons by Double D & Steinski? I dont have these on my computer anymore (they are on my - busted - MP3 player) so I cant check, but I would hazard a guess that it is in there on one of the three tracks

Oldest Amen Track?