Anybody know of a way to do this with midi which controllers ect. I've been able to simulate a slide with by using a pitch bend (Sorta). Kinda like they imitate hammer-ons/pull-offs in gutiar tab programs like Powertab or GuitarPro.
Thanks,
Best midi way to do guitar/bass hammer-ons or pull-offs
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- Mod-ulator
- 2895 posts since 31 Oct, 2000 from "Where I'm to, There I'll be"
heh
A Bit tough to do realistically via midi if you just have a plain single velocity sample.
The best way i know, is by actually having velocity triggered different sample layers and triggering the velocity you need.
I just did a Nylon guitar up recently that does this. (Slide up note on the hardest velocity ..not a hammer)
But on the other hand ....too many velocity layers and different styles of playing in one patch can become a headache to program ...let alone trying to play on your keyboard live or jamming. Also volume becomes an issue with the layers in the lower velocity on some sample sets and Samplers.
I myself like a simple 1 - 3 layer guitar ...no more than that...as it is a pain to play any more.
But as for Midi on 1 sample, you can fake it but it wont be as good as velocity sets....thats why we multi-sample
. Hopefully one of the midi gurus around here has a few midi tricks for you.
If my info does not help you ...I hope it helps someone.
Cheers
paul
A Bit tough to do realistically via midi if you just have a plain single velocity sample.
The best way i know, is by actually having velocity triggered different sample layers and triggering the velocity you need.
I just did a Nylon guitar up recently that does this. (Slide up note on the hardest velocity ..not a hammer)
But on the other hand ....too many velocity layers and different styles of playing in one patch can become a headache to program ...let alone trying to play on your keyboard live or jamming. Also volume becomes an issue with the layers in the lower velocity on some sample sets and Samplers.
I myself like a simple 1 - 3 layer guitar ...no more than that...as it is a pain to play any more.
But as for Midi on 1 sample, you can fake it but it wont be as good as velocity sets....thats why we multi-sample
. Hopefully one of the midi gurus around here has a few midi tricks for you.If my info does not help you ...I hope it helps someone.
Cheers
paul
Last edited by manytone on Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
well, using mono mode with legato can sound sorta like hammer-ons and pull-offs. Its not perfect, but hey its midi...
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- KVRAF
- 6179 posts since 29 Mar, 2003 from Location: Location
I agree with Floyd about the choosing a lead sound with legato.
When a guitar note is picked it is more or less staccato.(the string is attacked such that the envelope is sharp with pick noise.)(hitting a single note on a keyboard without any other notes pressed)
With that same note depressed,hit another note,(a 4th or 5th),this 2nd note will lack the staccato /picked sound thus legato.
If your sound is a guitar like envelope sound,it will be somewhat convincing.
Even my roland guitar midi convertor has no midi command for a hammer-on/pull-off.It depends all on the patch program in the sound your using.
If you can manage to assemble different velocity layers like manytone spoke about,you could get closer if your crafty.
Have a listen to Jan Hammer`s mini-moog sound,and how he emulates guitar.His velocity controls the sound harmonically.
When a guitar note is picked it is more or less staccato.(the string is attacked such that the envelope is sharp with pick noise.)(hitting a single note on a keyboard without any other notes pressed)
With that same note depressed,hit another note,(a 4th or 5th),this 2nd note will lack the staccato /picked sound thus legato.
If your sound is a guitar like envelope sound,it will be somewhat convincing.
Even my roland guitar midi convertor has no midi command for a hammer-on/pull-off.It depends all on the patch program in the sound your using.
If you can manage to assemble different velocity layers like manytone spoke about,you could get closer if your crafty.
Have a listen to Jan Hammer`s mini-moog sound,and how he emulates guitar.His velocity controls the sound harmonically.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4618 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Use pitch bends, but don't make them smooth. Make the pitch bends quantized at semitones. It actually sounds very realistic for slides/pull-offs/hammer-ons.