Was looking at it and thought, wow, i NEED this. But how good is it actually? I'm not very familiar with compressors in general so what makes this stand out? If I were going to get it, it would be because it's designed for drums in general but are there any other compressors out there that's better for this purpose?
thx in advance and pardon my english
Compadre Beatpuncher (how good is it?)
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 5 Jun, 2004 from Denmark
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- KVRAF
- 1821 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Hi Funkadelic,
I would classify Compadre as a "character" compressor, meaning that it adds coloration and definitely has attitude.
That said, it is great coloration and and an aggressive attitude that I love.
I think it is fair to say that it is not the most flexible compressor around, but then again it was not built for that.
I use it for drums, bass and vocals when I really want to slam them down. It is easy to get the sound your want, and it is more flexible than the name suggests. With some tweaking you can get some very interesting effects not easy to get with any other compressor.
I use it a lot.
Hope this helps.
I would classify Compadre as a "character" compressor, meaning that it adds coloration and definitely has attitude.
That said, it is great coloration and and an aggressive attitude that I love.
I think it is fair to say that it is not the most flexible compressor around, but then again it was not built for that.
I use it for drums, bass and vocals when I really want to slam them down. It is easy to get the sound your want, and it is more flexible than the name suggests. With some tweaking you can get some very interesting effects not easy to get with any other compressor.
I use it a lot.
Hope this helps.
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- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
HI
There are not very many EXTREME compressors around - Beatpuncher is quite good at the more extreme treatments than most - you could overload your average compressor and throw a distortion unit after it and get some similar sounds - possibly.
It has a side-chain facility as well so for the money pretty unbeatable.
Flipper.
There are not very many EXTREME compressors around - Beatpuncher is quite good at the more extreme treatments than most - you could overload your average compressor and throw a distortion unit after it and get some similar sounds - possibly.
It has a side-chain facility as well so for the money pretty unbeatable.
Flipper.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 71 posts since 5 Jun, 2004 from Denmark
I usually make hip-hop and trip-hop (portishead, Massive attack ect) and what i want is something that gives the drums some edge without "destroying" the beat. I'm used to have to tracks with the same hihat to get that lifted sound but I (know) that the lifted sounds usually comes from a compressor with sidechaing so i thought i might be able to spare some time AND get that "original" lifted sound with the Beatpuncher.
Am i mistaken or...?
Am i mistaken or...?
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- KVRAF
- 8705 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
From what you say about the type of music you make...I'd say Compadre is almost top of the list of compressors you need to check out. I bought it almost solely on the strength of what it did to drumloops. Alot of loops are already heavily processed, but you may still need to fiddle with them to get them to sit in your own tracks...Compadre is one of the few comps that can retain the feel of the groove whilst simultaneously compressing the hell out of it (which sounds like a contradiction, I know). And the compression is full of character and a little bit of grit...perfect for drums.
It's one of the few s/w comps that can pump and breathe well - GCO1 is the only other one I've tried yet that does it anywhere near as nicely as a decent analogue compressor. Compadre can sound like a decent analogue compressor, but without the loss of sparkle that often happens.
And the sidechaining is immensely useable for anything drum-related. You don't actually have to fiddle about with the sidechains....the straight-forward stereo version has sidechaining via some preset Eq filters - which all seem to be very well chosen ones - the list includes a kick-only filter, hats-only, snares, a "smooth" one which seems to take out the extreme lows and highs, so you can get heavy compression that isn't buggered up too much by the kicks and the hats if it's a frenetic beat! It all works seamlessly straight from the box.
Although I initially bought it for drums...I know it'll sound excellent on almost anything else too - and because there's a sidechain version with open key inputs, you can set up your own with your own personal Eq to do frequency-conscious compression on voices or whatever.
And did I mention it has 2 serial compressors in its chain? You don't have to have 2, but if you do, a second comp kicks in which will vary according to the settings of the first apparently - it's easy to get immense compression this way without pumping (it's a commonly known trick to use 2 serial comps, but this system is automatic, and again, works flawlessly).
And did I mention the tasty little extras like the inbuilt limiter - and the auto gain switch...auto gain maintains your output almost exactly at the same peak level as the original uncompressed audio. Most others I've tried with this feature, instead use autogain to boost it up to 0dBFS...which irritates the snot out of me...Compadre isn't quite perfect, but it's close enough to be a feature worth a few $$$ all on its own. What it means in practice is that (with most patches) you can directly A/B compare a channel with and without compression without having to dick around with output gains or with the actual channel fader - it's so quick and easy.
The only other s/w comp I'd consider is GCO1 ... but it's different again from Compadre...I'll eventually have both. To be honest, I'd reverted back to using my h/w simply because almost all of the other s/w comps were so dull to my ears. Now Compadre has taken over. I love it - especially for drums - you can abuse the hell out of drums and still make them sound good.
And you can do weird things with the waveshaping compression (but that's another story).
It really is that good.
It's one of the few s/w comps that can pump and breathe well - GCO1 is the only other one I've tried yet that does it anywhere near as nicely as a decent analogue compressor. Compadre can sound like a decent analogue compressor, but without the loss of sparkle that often happens.
And the sidechaining is immensely useable for anything drum-related. You don't actually have to fiddle about with the sidechains....the straight-forward stereo version has sidechaining via some preset Eq filters - which all seem to be very well chosen ones - the list includes a kick-only filter, hats-only, snares, a "smooth" one which seems to take out the extreme lows and highs, so you can get heavy compression that isn't buggered up too much by the kicks and the hats if it's a frenetic beat! It all works seamlessly straight from the box.
Although I initially bought it for drums...I know it'll sound excellent on almost anything else too - and because there's a sidechain version with open key inputs, you can set up your own with your own personal Eq to do frequency-conscious compression on voices or whatever.
And did I mention it has 2 serial compressors in its chain? You don't have to have 2, but if you do, a second comp kicks in which will vary according to the settings of the first apparently - it's easy to get immense compression this way without pumping (it's a commonly known trick to use 2 serial comps, but this system is automatic, and again, works flawlessly).
And did I mention the tasty little extras like the inbuilt limiter - and the auto gain switch...auto gain maintains your output almost exactly at the same peak level as the original uncompressed audio. Most others I've tried with this feature, instead use autogain to boost it up to 0dBFS...which irritates the snot out of me...Compadre isn't quite perfect, but it's close enough to be a feature worth a few $$$ all on its own. What it means in practice is that (with most patches) you can directly A/B compare a channel with and without compression without having to dick around with output gains or with the actual channel fader - it's so quick and easy.
The only other s/w comp I'd consider is GCO1 ... but it's different again from Compadre...I'll eventually have both. To be honest, I'd reverted back to using my h/w simply because almost all of the other s/w comps were so dull to my ears. Now Compadre has taken over. I love it - especially for drums - you can abuse the hell out of drums and still make them sound good.
And you can do weird things with the waveshaping compression (but that's another story).
It really is that good.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 71 posts since 5 Jun, 2004 from Denmark
Gues i gotta have it
thx for the replies!
thx for the replies!