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cbhr · Post by **cbhr** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:31 am

Hello

Having so many problem with QLSO Platinum, I just got Jam Pack 4 "Symphony Orchestra", it is FABULOUS for 99 $

You have a few less articulations, and a few "Bass" instrument are missing (clarinet bass, contra basson, Wagnen tuben, bass trombone) but it is fast, simple to use, well documented and RELAYABLE

If you add a Sound Designer reverb with a "big hall" on the main out of Logic you have the QLSO big sound

If you are interested I can do a complete study of the pro and cons, write to me at blanc.cyril@wanadoo.fr

Best

Cyril

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:22 am

Ah right. A set of $99 Garageband instruments has 'a few less' articulations than a 19-DVD, 65Gb, $4400 library. Strange that.

What problems were you having, precisely?

cbhr · Post by **cbhr** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:58 am

whyterabbyt wrote:Ah right. A set of $99 Garageband instruments has 'a few less' articulations than a 19-DVD, 65Gb, $4400 library. Strange that.

What problems were you having, precisely?

it is not 4400 $ it is either 2900 $ for platinum or 5800 for PRO

A few articulation only !!

I have a G5 2X2 + 3.5 GB 2 satz of 160+250gb + a raid 0 a RocketRaid card and 6 raptor (350 MB/S)

- I have Malloc errors that leads to crashes
- I get pops and clicks
- I get hole in the song if I bounce on my system disk
- I have noticed that the notes on a same program does not have the same velocity curve, some are softer some are louder at an equivalent velocity.
- I have also experienced double attack on a half note of a trumpet
- key switched program are not homogeneous
- Manual : if John Philpit was not there we could had wait a long time to have a decent manual, many thanks to him. When you think I have request to E/W a documentation of the mapping of the percussions for more than a year ; this is non professional ; Hopefully now it is in John's manual.
- I have lost hours of work, now I soon I have done an edit I save (every 5 minutes)
- Each time I load my music templates it takes 7.40 minutes, with JaM Pack 4 i have more instruments and it takes 1 minute (same environment with VSL is 1.30 mn)

The icing on the cake is than I been form E/W forum for this message :

> ----------------------------------
> Hi
>
> Will the Kompakt player for QLSO Platinum profit of the improvements of Kontakt V2 ?
> Especially on the optimization and on the bug fixes

*
>
>   When is it due ?
>
>   Best
>
>   MacManiac
>
>   * I still have a few problems with Logic/Kontakt and QLSO Platinum I get those error:
>
>   *** malloc[441]: Deallocation of a pointer not
> malloced: 0x169e1a70; This could be a double free(), or free() called with
> the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable
> MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
>
>   and
>
>   *** malloc[441]: error for object 0x169df6b0: Double free
>
>   Speaking to Apple Pro support they say it's Kontakt fault !

Lunatique · Post by **Lunatique** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:58 am

Why not just post your pros and cons right here so we can all read it? I sure would like to know.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:06 am

cbhr quoth

it is not 4400 $ it is either 2900 $ for platinum or 5800 for PRO

It is listed at $4400 for Platinum at East West. http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=797

A few articulation only !!

What does?

Speaking to Apple Pro support they say it's Kontakt fault !

Im sure they do.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:07 am

Yes, I had a nightmare with Gold, but in the end the results were worth the trouble. I'd need a top-of-the-range PC to run gold smoothly, yet alone Platinum.

cbhr · Post by **cbhr** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:08 am

Lunatique wrote:Why not just post your pros and cons right here so we can all read it? I sure would like to know.

I do not want to be banned for telling all the truth !

If you insist I will do so for the end of this week as I am going to transter from QLSO Platinum to Jam Pack 4 a big piece of music tomorow

in the mean time you can have a look on the Free QLSO forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/qlso

Best

Cyril

cbhr · Post by **cbhr** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:19 am

> It is listed at $4400 for Platinum at East West. http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=797

They got mad, when I bought it it was 2900 $ and I had it fo 1900 Euro

> A few articulation only !!
> What does?
I will put that in the study

> Speaking to Apple Pro support they say it's Kontakt fault !
> Im sure they do.

They have analyse the crash dump !! and NI is very quite about this bug report (no answer)
As soon I remove AU of Kontakt no more problems no more crashes

Lunatique · Post by **Lunatique** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:28 am

cbhr wrote: I do not want to be banned for telling all the truth !

If you insist I will do so for the end of this week

No one's going to ban you for stating your opinion. This isn't that kind of website.

Rellik · Post by **Rellik** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:38 pm

whyterabbit, he gets that "only a few less articulations" is hard to believe - that's why he's commenting on it on this forum

I'm glad to hear that there's such an inexpensive alternative. What format does the Jam Pack come in? Any audio demos?

jones-y · Post by **jones-y** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:08 pm

Rellik wrote:whyterabbit, he gets that "only a few less articulations" is hard to believe - that's why he's commenting on it on this forum

I'm glad to hear that there's such an inexpensive alternative. What format does the Jam Pack come in? Any audio demos?

Well, unless you got a Mac, and Garageband or Logic 7, you'll be disappointed...

From Apple's literature, it sounds like 2000 loops and over 30 sampler instruments. Doesn't really sound like a EWQLSO competitor to me. But then again, I'm not the orch type...

AndrewW · Post by **AndrewW** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:16 pm

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/det ... sku=EW-155

Platinum for $2995 US.

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:24 pm

mjones4th wrote:Well, unless you got a Mac, and Garageband or Logic 7, you'll be disappointed...

And Apple Soundtrack. If anyone still uses that after Garageband 2...

cbhr · Post by **cbhr** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:54 am

kovacs wrote:
mjones4th wrote:Well, unless you got a Mac, and Garageband or Logic 7, you'll be disappointed...

And Apple Soundtrack. If anyone still uses that after Garageband 2...

The Jam pack is delivered in EXS24 format, so it can be used , of course by Logic anf Garage band but also by the other sampler reader that reads the EXS24.

I dont know if you can convert EXS24 to AKAI with the various converter availlable in the market !

JP4 uses key switches with CC#4, this is much better than using note that are poluating your score.
The expression is modulated by CC#11, good idea !

Concerning articulations ; we will speak in detail later in the week, again for the price you pay you GET A LOT !
The other questions is do we need XXX articulations for each instrument.

My problem is to make a document with writing, part of the manual, screen hard copy and pieces of music, is it possible to post it there ?
I doubt, this is why I have ask you to send me your name if you where interested

Best

Cyril

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:18 am

Disregard my comment about Soundtrack. It does not support MIDI controllers...

Jam Pack 4 Symphony Orchestra v.s. QLSO