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- New key limiter tool in piano roll.
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- New score flipper tool in piano roll.
:?:

- New level scaling tool in piano roll & event editor.
:love:

What I really want for FL's piano roll though -- and have since using the thing -- is a way to scale the lengths/times of a pattern. Just halving or doubling would be enough, though other ratios would be cool for polyrhythmic stuff or moving from 4/4 to 6/8 :)

I don't know how many times I've thought "that's a neat passage/loop/thing but it should be twice as fast and be 4 bars long instead of 8"... and then had to manually change the lengths and note positions, and usually get it wrong :help:

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you can double it by doing CTRL+A, CTRL+C, then moving towards the end of the notes you have there and hit CTRL+V. I know it's not what you want, but it'll work, and it's just as fast as any tool made to do it would be I would think. hope this helps.
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to stretch a bunch of notes, select them, stretch one of them but holding shift at the same time

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New key limiter tool in piano roll.

- New level scaling tool in piano roll & event editor.
The score flipper I understand and have wanted for a long time. But I don't get what are use of the limiter and scaling tools. How are these useful?

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score flipper ! ... :love:
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foosnark wrote:
What I really want for FL's piano roll though -- and have since using the thing -- is a way to scale the lengths/times of a pattern. Just halving or doubling would be enough, though other ratios would be cool for polyrhythmic stuff or moving from 4/4 to 6/8 :)
Not sure if this is what you mean, but...

1. Select the notes you want. (or Ctrl-A to select all of them)
2. Move to end of a note so that you get the stretch tool.
3. Hold down SHIFT. Drag to the right.

It will resize not only the lengths, but the start times as well.

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Last edited by ceenda on Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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ceenda wrote:
foosnark wrote:
What I really want for FL's piano roll though -- and have since using the thing -- is a way to scale the lengths/times of a pattern. Just halving or doubling would be enough, though other ratios would be cool for polyrhythmic stuff or moving from 4/4 to 6/8 :)
Not sure if this is what you mean, but...

1. Select the notes you want. (or Ctrl-A to select all of them)
2. Move to end of a note so that you get the stretch tool.
3. Hold down SHIFT. Drag to the right.

It will resize not only the lengths, but the start times as well.
:o
learn something new every day !...

thanks ...
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ceenda wrote:3. Hold down SHIFT.
:dog: Thanks.

Handy animation there too, that's exactly what I meant :)

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OK that's how Midi timeshift works. I had not got around to seeing that yet. This stuff is moving way too fast for my little brain. :oops:

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totally amazing.. you can never learn enough about FLstudio.

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I'm wondering if this update has any corelation to the review of FL5 in March FM magazine. If it is, thanks GOL...nice style! As the author puts it: "In an ideal world, I'd like to see....[bitches about playlist and workflow]...But as a foundation for software studios? I'd look elsewhere." It was very clear that author was raised in a cubase/logic paradigm (as he referenced). Though I'm under the impression that he really new nothing about the subtilties (such as the [shift] I bet...I didn't, thanks).

Is it possiable for a person to test drive FL for a week or two or four and write a review, mabey even months? I've been using it for years and still find new things. I also hate when the persons name who did the review isn't given so we know whos full of shiot abd who isn't. True enough there isn't a decent manual, imho; computer screens make crappy toilet reading material.

Now...I must go and download the update. :hihi:
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Jaeson Merrill wrote:totally amazing.. you can never learn enough about FLstudio.
I'm glad someone else feels this way! I remember one time I posted about not being able to do alternate time sigs, (this was a few versions ago) and I guess gol had about enough of those kinds of posts. He responded personally, and I think he was just plain shocked that there was somebody dense enough to miss that feature (while he was busy trying to implenent WAY more impressive features).

I haven't had the stones to make a feature request since! :lol:
If every KVR member wrote one review a year we'd have 1340 reviews each day!

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ceenda wrote:
foosnark wrote:
What I really want for FL's piano roll though -- and have since using the thing -- is a way to scale the lengths/times of a pattern. Just halving or doubling would be enough, though other ratios would be cool for polyrhythmic stuff or moving from 4/4 to 6/8 :)
Not sure if this is what you mean, but...

1. Select the notes you want. (or Ctrl-A to select all of them)
2. Move to end of a note so that you get the stretch tool.
3. Hold down SHIFT. Drag to the right.

It will resize not only the lengths, but the start times as well.

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How the F(*&^ do you do that? There are several times I 'd like to "show" something like that. I just get errors and "you can't do a picture" and so on when tried before...............

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normal wrote:score flipper ! ... :love:
Yeah great.....but what is it?????

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Barf wrote:
normal wrote:score flipper ! ... :love:
Yeah great.....but what is it?????
it's a midi-mirror ...
you can make a mirror image of a group of notes ...

horizontally ...
vertically ...
or both ...

:love:
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