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Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:37 pm

Is there a sampler that I can use to just record my guitar and it will automatically analyse each note, place it in the right keymap and layer the samples, and if needed add automatic loop points?

I am looking for something where I can play my guitar, say E note a few times at various velocities, then play F etc. The sampler must cut the audio stream real time and put the samples at the places where it belongs.

funkadil · Post by **funkadil** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:48 pm

If there was Im sure there would be massive flaws.

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:51 pm

Why? It should all be just a matter of maths.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:00 pm

I have seen a couple examples of 'auto map' wherin the sampler detects the pitch and maps accordingly. As for cutting and stff like that, I haven't seen taht.
Then again, there is autotrigger recording on lots of hardware samplers, and software recording programs. I think that SoundForge has it, but I havent used it.
ONe thing you might try is something called 'wave knife' - you can play all your notes one at a time, recording the whole session. Then load the track into wave knife, set the thresholds, and it spits out individual samples. I used it on one of my sample disks (the old style that had all the samples one after the other in long long tracks) and it worked like a charm. Then try and find a sampler with automap (pitch detection)
hope that helps ... ?

bko · Post by **bko** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:04 pm

Do you also want the sampler to take all your recorded notes, shuffle them around automatically and create a hit?

Just messin', would be cool to have that but at the same time I don't play the guitar so...

marce · Post by **marce** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 10:31 pm

Melodyne?
look it at
http://www.celemony.com/

the demo is amazing

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:33 pm

Thanks for the replies. The method spoonboiler suggest is how I do it in Sonar in combination with VSampler now. It is still a long a laborious process to record a complete sample bank that way. VS also does not do velocity mapping.

AFAIK Melodyne works with melody lines and chops it up, but can not create a sample bank that I can use in another sampler.

Thanks

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 4:56 pm

Your idea would fail on the first step you described.

Ironically, there's no VSTi sampler that can sample.

Sepheritoh · Post by **Sepheritoh** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 5:34 pm

I'll do the tingling on the strings part.

Jules2000 · Post by **Jules2000** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:52 pm

spoonboiler wrote:ONe thing you might try is something called 'wave knife' - you can play all your notes one at a time, recording the whole session. Then load the track into wave knife, set the thresholds, and it spits out individual samples.

Doesn't any decent sequencer/host do that? Logic, ProTools...

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:13 am

declassified wrote:Your idea would fail on the first step you described.

Ironically, there's no VSTi sampler that can sample.

emulator x can do this

it wont cut your waves up tho- and i have no idea if it will automatically pitch them either

pummel · Post by **pummel** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 12:50 am

A slightly different approach--

You might consider demoing DoppleManger or Cameleon for this task. Just record a single sample, and plop it into the resynthesiser. Each gives multiple options on spreading your sound across the entire keyboard (without artifacts). And then, frequency domain based looping sounds cleaner than time domain. If you ultimately need to have a set of samples for some reason, then simply load the resynth into highlife (or chainer); both of which do auto-sampling.

BTW, Dopplemanger has a group buy brewing at the moment.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 3:53 am

Jules2000 wrote:
spoonboiler wrote:ONe thing you might try is something called 'wave knife' - you can play all your notes one at a time, recording the whole session. Then load the track into wave knife, set the thresholds, and it spits out individual samples.
Doesn't any decent sequencer/host do that? Logic, ProTools...

umm, no I don't think so.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:14 am

The NNXT Sampler in Reason will automap samples but it doesn't always seem reliable... and it's not a VSTi either.

Jules2000 · Post by **Jules2000** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 9:52 am

spoonboiler wrote:
Jules2000 wrote:
spoonboiler wrote:ONe thing you might try is something called 'wave knife' - you can play all your notes one at a time, recording the whole session. Then load the track into wave knife, set the thresholds, and it spits out individual samples.
Doesn't any decent sequencer/host do that? Logic, ProTools...
umm, no I don't think so.

Logic - Strip silence
ProTools - Got the same function with another name

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