KVR Audio

popsych · Post by **popsych** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:44 pm

I've been posting a lot lately concerning hosts and some may think that i'm blowing Samplitudes trumpet so to set things straight this is a post where we fantasize about our ideal host and say what things we envy in each host. Feel free to pitch in.

My ideal host would have :

1. Tracktion's ease of use and uncluttered interface
2. Reason's low cpu hit
3. Pro-tools / Logic's / DP's automation
4. Logic's MIDI and flexibility
5. Samplitude's audio features and object editing
6. Energy XT's routing
7. Audition's spectral edit mode
8. Logic's Instrument's
9. Cubase/Nuendo's : Nothing

10. Sonar's Midi FX ( well maybe cubase 2

)
11. And a sony oxford/voxengo/korg/gmedia bundle of effects and synth's for free

Bash away / Add stuff

A guy can dream.

harmony gardens · Post by **harmony gardens** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:59 pm

I like P Seq , and the way softsynths are handled in Project 5. I've missed digital audio in it though, and rewire seems to put too much on my cpu, so I have been using Sonar. I'm anxious to see how it goes with the new update. The inclusion of audio will be a great addition to the program.

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:15 pm

HI

I CRAVE a Piano-Roll like the one Logic PC gave me - it was designed (graphically) just perfect for showing an 8 bar view at just the right level of zoom to make intricate midi editing more or less perfect.

I have 2 monitors and trying to get the same in SXV3 just doesn't work and Tracktion V1.6 (my increasingly prefered host of late)is not IMO even close to SX.

I do like samplitudes piano-roll - especially the way you can scroll horizontally/vertically and expand/contract the view from the same slider - a blindingly nice feature I haven't seen else where.

Shame I could not face up to Samplitudes overal interface/way of working, I was bitterly disapointed on waiting for the V8 demo only to be so unimpressed by it.

But lol - if Tracktion had all those features we would hate it's complexity!!!

Flipper.

deggy · Post by **deggy** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:16 pm

I use to just own SX1. It was terrible. been a cubase user for over 10 years (version 3.0). Just recently upgraded to SX3. The freeze function and subtle interface adjustments make it much more useable and it is probably by far the most user friendly and powerful Cubase has ever been in this span of ten years. Don't get me wrong, i'm switching to logic 7 as soon as i get the cash but i think, if have a nice collection of essential plugins, SX3 is decent enough. But for some reason, i find that sx1 sounds better than sx3. i can't figure it out because it's supposed to be the reverse. oh well

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:16 pm

1. I don't like Traktion's UI at all.
2. All hosts have low CPU hit - they don't actually make much sound. If I only use native instruments, I'm sure ORION uses no more CPU than Reason and is at least as stable.
3. ORION's automation is good enough
4. Nothing wrong with ORION's flexibility and I don't need MIDI [probably just as well]
5. ORION's internal link to your editor of choice makes it hard to beat
6. I have eXT, can't find any use for it though
7. ORION's instruments are awesome
8. Spectral edit looks pretty but I don't see how its useful [its been in Cool Edit for 10 years].
9. Agreed
10. Use eXT if you need that krap
11. I'll take ORION's low-CPU instruments and effects any day.

I don't need to dream, i got it all going on for real.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:19 pm

I don't know enough about other sequencers to really make a list like that, but since Tracktion HAS modularity like eXT, and also per-object editing (exception: automation), it's covering a lot of those bases.

I'm such a Tracktion whore.

Knowing what I know, I'd say my perfect sequencer would have:

1. Tracktion as a base
2. Fruity's spline-based automation
3. Samplitude's Elastic Audio features
4. Acid's Loop-related functionality
5. eXT's relentless half-human, half-developer.

Greg

Rellik · Post by **Rellik** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:45 pm

1. energyXT's light weight, skinnability, modularity, awesome developer
2. FL Studio's piano roll, integrated sampling/pattern sequencing, stability
3. Sibelius/Finale's score editing/printing capabilities

Hmm.. actaully, that's about it.

r2101 · Post by **r2101** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:51 pm

well my dream setup would be a integrated reason/buzz sequencer...

the stability and piano roll from reason and the fx & synths of course... malstrom is lovely...
and the whole complicated mess that is buzz on top of it ...
and i want the stability of reason for buzz (bright but flaky in that area)...

ceenda · Post by **ceenda** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:52 pm

Rellik wrote:1. energyXT's light weight, skinnability, modularity, awesome developer
2. FL Studio's piano roll, integrated sampling/pattern sequencing, stability
3. Sibelius/Finale's score editing/printing capabilities

Hmm.. actaully, that's about it.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

soma · Post by **soma** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:58 pm

i pretty much agree with the 1st post ecept that would have the mixing and tracker of buzz and the piano roll/step sequencing of FL. but ext is getting close to all of those imho

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:02 am

My ideal host/hosts would be one/ones which I could discuss on a forum, such as this one, without either fanboys getting all orgasmic & defensive over their own host of choice, or haters getting all high blood pressure & shit. There's good stuff in most of em i reckon - some I personally don't find appealing for various reasons, & some of em i get put off of by gushing fanboy antics & overzealous developer hijacking etc.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:32 am

Hm... as far as I could tell, we WERE discussing it without any problems.

Yay, KvR.

tkay77 · Post by **tkay77** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:37 am

My ideal Sequencer:

1: looks like ableton live
2: has the midi handling of project5
3: has the mixer features of sonar 4
4: has the cpu usage of reason
5: has the effects quality of universal audio and voxengo
6: has the live features of live
7: has the all the instruments from native instruments and arturia
8: has the audio editor of soundforge or samplitude
9: and costs 99$

tkay

PS: do you say "of" or "from"..oh man, my english is getting worse...

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:40 am

wa-hey - i usually catch these threads after a few pages - u know page 7 or 8 once the real bickering starts - feel kinda left out, so i thought i'd put the boot in good & early myself

I also don't drink often - so u could blame jack.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:49 am

BONES wrote:2. All hosts have low CPU hit - they don't actually make much sound. If I only use native instruments, I'm sure ORION uses no more CPU than Reason and is at least as stable.

You've obviously never really tried Reason have you?

My sequencer sucks/rocks (Ideal sequencer)