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Zoomby · Post by **Zoomby** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:55 am

hi,

I don't know if anybody mentioned this site before:

http://www.clavia.se/ddrum/sounds/index.htm

There are many free acoustic drum-samples (whole kits) for the clavia ddrum hardware box (which I don't own myself). The only annoying problem is, that the sounds are in the "midi sample dump" - format. You can download a tool (http://www.clavia.se/ddrum/software.htm#tool) to listen to the sounds, but you cannot convert them to wav. I also didn't found any tool to convert the samples. Sure, you can record them, but this is a bit annoying.
Mabye someone here has a idea or a solution.

bye
Chris

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:19 pm

Nope - not found anything that'll extract the sample data. Maybe that's why Clavia are so happy to post them for free - only existing customers can use 'em!

As with all these things, I can't see it being impossible to decode the data -- after all, the ddrum4 manages it. It just needs someone to spend time analysing what's there. Compressed audio (and, I hope, it's compressed) isn't easy to parse, of course...

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:32 pm

As you already said, you could use Audio Record Wizard and record everything that's sent to your soundcard from any application.

Then you could listen to the samples one after another and record all of them into a single file.

winegums100 · Post by **winegums100** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:44 am

Or you could buy a DDrum, download the sounds into it, sample them, and post them up for us to use!

Just kidding...

Winegums100

Zoomby · Post by **Zoomby** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:07 pm

hi,

I think some of the drums are useful enough to record, and edit them by hand.
But I wonder "how free" the samples are. Are you allowed to reoffer them for free in another format? There is no special note on the clavia homepage except a general copyright on the bottom of the page.

bye
Chris

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:14 pm

Well, that "all rights reserved" notice means Clavia have to explicitly give the right to do anything with the samples. However, they're described as "free" at the top of the page and that's incredibly open to interpretation!! (Given that in the EU, the copyright statement really isn't required and acts only as a reminder, the explicit labelling as "free" probably carries quite some weight.)

I would imagine they'd be hard pushed to stop you using the samples (should you be able to extract them) in a song (even without use of a ddrum4). I think it would be stretching "free" to say you were free to offer the samples to others. Just opinion, though: the page isn't at all helpful in that respect.

found a free drum-sample site...