Pleasure in those small details

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I don't make half as much music now as I used to..... not that I spend any less time at it, I'm just far less productive :?

But recently I was really pleased with something I've nearly finished (and it'll be nearly finished probably for the next 3 weeks :( ). Started off dubby, but ended up being more of a lounge lizard groove thang :?: But I spent ages on a synth guitar part. I don't play guitar, but I use guitar-ish sounding chords alot in my dub stuff. I can get nice synth patches that sound great with guitar FX on them, but usually I just play in the chords with a keyboard and do some midi editing, copying, pasting etc. But they never really sound too realistic :? It usually seems like to much hassle to get it right. But this track was going well, so I put the time in by editing notes so that they weren't just obvious 3 or 4-note chords.

I edited them so that they were far enough apart that it played like a guitar...adjusted the timing of every chord so that the notes played with incremental delays like you were strumming slowly - I even adjusted some so that chords next to each other were played with an upwards and downwards strum...and each and every chord was done differently. Even down to editing every individual note velocity and length. Bloody time-consuming, for sure....but it worked really well....especially when I took off the overdrive and distortion FX. Then I spent maybe 4 hours just on the synth parameter tweaking to get the envelope and metallicness as close as I could get it - tried out about 7 different synth until one did it properly (and surprisingly it was the Waldorf A1 with a bit of ring mod that sounded the best - I thought some of my fancier synths would be better at it, but they weren't.)

Does anyone else go to that sort of depth of detail, or is it just me getting obsessed? ( I might actually get tracks done quicker in the long run if I just learn to play the bloody guitar :? ).

I used to do 3 or 4 tracks every month - now it takes me forever with one, but I find that type of detail really pleasing. What other types of obsessions of detail do you get into?
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:nutter:

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JohnVulich wrote::nutter:
you do alot of those, don't you?

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:?

So it's just me then?

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kritikon wrote::?

So it's just me then?
nah, I do that to..but in the end I get so mad at this shite that it just won't matter...

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He, he! Don't feel bad. I've got 8 songs started, half of them "nearly" done--one of them I did just same kind of mucking about with Clean Guitar to get a crystalline strummed guitar sound going along with some muted plucked sounds . . .

The devil is in the details. I've got extensive notes on what needs done to finish these tracks but . . . it's just a lot easier to start a new one.

Some day I'll actually get one done and throw it to the hounds here. :lol:

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emdot_ambient wrote:I've got extensive notes on what needs done to finish these tracks but . . . it's just a lot easier to start a new one.
I find it's more fun to start a new track as well. I do this with coding projects too (and everything else come to think of it).
Once you've chosen (/ended up with) a direction for a track, well... you're not stuck with it, but the mark is there. Whereas a new track... you can play around with new sounds, new melodies. Go in a completely different direction that matches your current mood.

I'd love to be able to get stuck into the detail of it, endlessly trying out effect combinations and automations, adding and removing sounds, eqing etc. etc. I think I just don't have the patience. So I really admire people who can work on a track like that. I think it's also partly down to 'musical confidence'... I'm a pretty unconfident person at the best of times, so I find it really hard to eg. choose a sound, write a melody, twiddle some knobs. And then say 'That works, what's next'.
Maybe that's just part of the learning process...?

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actually I picked up the guitar and finally "learned" about 18 months ago. Im no lead player, but I got rhythm down pretty well and can ply some moderately dificult acoustic folk type stuff. I have also put my time in and really gotten better an piano and bass guitar.

However, that has only slowed my music making. Since I am only decent at all thress instruments, my ambition overshadows my playing, so I usually take longer than when I used virtual guitar, and heavy cut and paste in the piano roll. However, the results are much more organic. but at my current pace, I finish 2 songs per year, and start about 30-40... :dog: :bang:

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