convert to mp3: SNR = 25dB

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Ever wondered, what happens to your music when exporting your precious mix to mp3 ?
I always wondered, if mp3 not only removes psycho-acoustical "masked out" inaudible content (this is the common opinion about mp3 and all lossy encoding theories), but also adds a fair amount of noise to the signal, which was not yet measured or discussed.
So I measured the actual SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) in the spectrum, and was very disappointed but confirmed about my listening observation.

I measured the SNR between busy frequency bands and silent frequency bands. The result is:
  • mp3 128-256 constantly has only 25dB SNR, even mp3 320 has only around 32dB SNR
  • mp2 (VCD, SVCD, Digital Video Broadcast) has only 10dB (160kbps), 18dB (224kbps)
  • ac3 (DVD!) is not much better, 20dB SNR
  • mp3pro totally screws the spectrum above 10kHz (removes bands, adds other bands or shifts bands in spectrum)
  • musepack mpc is nearly as bad as mp2
  • wav muLaw 8bit is not as bad as expected compared to the others (has 40dB)[:D]
  • ogg (65dB) and aac (70dB) are winner in the lossy playground, wma9 follows (55dB)
  • if you use an iPod, aac (or apple lossless (ALAC) of course) sounds better, many mobile phones play aac too.
  • aac -HE (high efficiency) should be avoided, screws the spectrum just as mp3pro does. Use aac -LC (low complexity) instead.
  • finally use the free lossless formats flac and ape to preserve your expensive sound and fidelity if you are scared from the pictures (as I am) [:)]
How to read the pictures:
The first is the original wave spectrum. (equals to lossless ape and flac compression)
The peaks show the frequency response, the valleys show the noise floor.
Peaks should go straight up to 20 kHz, the valleys should be low and not narrow.
See yourself how different lossy compressed formats fill up the music with audible noise.

(how to avoid those notorious scroll bars under the pictures?)
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Holy shit!

The Flymo will never cope with all that grass! :-o

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:lol:

Hey use your ears, if it sounds good enough, then it is. I wonder how much noise is added while I'm driving in my piece of tin down the road during rush hour? I ain't no audiophile, and I've been to concerts where I think the noise floor (see severely painful distortion) was even still enjoyable, (with earplugs). But I guess what you're saying is that ogg is a better format. Okay, problem is only a small percentage of people listen to that format.

Bring on the noise.

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toine6 wrote::lol:

Hey use your ears, if it sounds good enough, then it is. ...
8) That's exactly what I did, using my ears. And then I wanted to see, if I hear all those noise only in my imagination or if it is really there.
Now I know, it is really there, so I can trust my ears.
( ... and listen to lossless audio only, maybe some AAC on the mobile phone).

@ChimeraMan:
You are sooo right :D

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