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snootles · Post by **snootles** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:20 am

Hi,

I'm a guitarist and have very limited knowledge about computer recording. Can anyone suggest what is the best sequencer/host for me to record guitar. I need one which is fairly straight forward and will allow me to get going quickly. One thing I do want is VSTi capabilities so that I can use groove agent (I don't want to program my own drum patterns. I also need to use loops.

Cheers

Si

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:22 am

Tracktion. (www.mackie.com). Only if that is too expensive look at other stuff...

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:05 am

If I was recording guitar and working with loops, I'd get Ableton Live http://www.ableton.com.. If you have an M-Audio audio card, you should have an LE version already and Ableton lets you upgrade to the full version for $249.00. If you don't have an audio card at all, it's a sweet deal (Audiophile 2496 $99.00 + upgrade $249.00 = audio card + Ableton Live 4 for $348.00).

Tracktion is simple to learn for beginner, but it doesn't read loop info and the timestrech is horrible.

Another contender would be the new Cakewalk project5. I haven't demoed it yet but report I've read, here and elsewhere, says it's pretty good. Unfortunately the license is not transfereable, so it should be demoed carefully before buying into it.

Also look for FL studio http://www.flstudio.com/.

MattmaN · Post by **MattmaN** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:16 am

I do loop based stuff with Tracktion all the time.

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SonicBreeze · Post by **SonicBreeze** » Wed May 18, 2005 9:23 pm

When I Started Computer based music creation, My tool was 'CoolEdit Pro' which is now known as 'Adobe audition'. This software worked for audio seamlessly. But when I grown up a little I realised it was lacking Midi functionalities and on some other fronts also.
So after trying many hosts available in the market I switched over to Cubase. I am currently working on Cubase SX 2, . I found Cubase comparativerly Stable,less buggy,Easy and All in One solution for your Audio and Midi needs. So I highly recommend this to you too.

Mo Verdigast · Post by **Mo Verdigast** » Wed May 18, 2005 11:07 pm

snootles wrote:Hi,

I'm a guitarist and have very limited knowledge about computer recording. Can anyone suggest what is the best sequencer/host for me to record guitar. I need one which is fairly straight forward and will allow me to get going quickly. One thing I do want is VSTi capabilities so that I can use groove agent (I don't want to program my own drum patterns. I also need to use loops.

Cheers

Si

Cakewalk makes a nice inexpensive package for guitarists, Guitar Tracks Pro. http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Guitar ... efault.asp

toine6 · Post by **toine6** » Wed May 18, 2005 11:59 pm

I demo'ed Tracktion once, I think it would fit your needs better than than the rest. I use FLStudio, but, it's not the best app for guitar stuff. Tracktion is the most intuitive, most powerful option for someone just starting out. You can get straight to work and things should go fairly smoothly, where the other programs have a learning curve centered more around the veteran users. Thing is Tracktion is also very competitive with all the big boys, even if it is simple. Wish that was the first program I had used.

Sidhu · Post by **Sidhu** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:20 pm

Tracktion.

garret · Post by **garret** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:35 pm

Ezy Ryder wrote: Another contender would be the new Cakewalk project5. I haven't demoed it yet but report I've read, here and elsewhere, says it's pretty good. Unfortunately the license is not transfereable, so it should be demoed carefully before buying into it.

I'm not sure if p5 will be a good match for a guitar player... from what I understand it's more of a "virtual synth studio" like reason. I could be wrong though... I haven't used p5 so I don't know where it ends and Sonar begins.

Snootles, check out Cakewalk Home Studio... It's pretty much all the stuff in Sonar you'll need, plus a lot more. If you're a student or other academic schlub like me, you can get it discounted for $68. Regular price is about $100.

-Garret

kara · Post by **kara** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:36 pm

You could have a look at Powertracks Pro from pgmusic.
Site : www.pgmusic.com

Rony

auxbuss · Post by **auxbuss** » Thu May 19, 2005 5:07 pm

I'm a Cubase user, in the main, but with Live Rewired. I'm also a guitarist, and I can't think of anything better than sketching out toons with Live. It was made for guitarists.

Well, okay, it wasn't, but it could have been.

For one, you can drop a bunch of loops in there as a group to jam over, and let Live take care of the order while you noodle away.

Second, wherever those loops came from matters not a jot, since they will all be nicely in tempo.

And, even if you miss a beat while recording, you can warp your guitar noodle into the groove without putting the guitar down.

Live is very, very good for guitar players.

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:58 pm

auxbuss wrote:
Live is very, very good for guitar players.

Yes, that was my first thought when I started playing with Live, and that's why I spent so many word about it in my first reply in the thread, the rest I wrote was more like second thought.

I demoed Live for a while, but I play keys wih hardware and software synth and I don't use loop at all, so Tracktion was better for me and the way I work. But if I was playing guitar and had a nice library of loops, I would buy live without thinking about it twice.

Wormhelmet · Post by **Wormhelmet** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:17 am

I'm a guitar player for the most part, but started in with keys a few years back too. if you just want to jam and have a blast making some easy loops to play with, then use live 4 with jamstix. get a couple of the awesome free synths available here if you want to venture into that area and as you progress with wanting more and more features, dig into live further. Its got some great features. i started out with cubasis and moved to fruity loops, then tried cubase, but demoed the live 4 when it came out and had no learning curve. it was/is really simple, yet able to produce amazing results. I've had great luck with plugin stability and it isn't tedious at all to get up and jamming. I think a solution like guitar tracks would be cool too if you are on the budget and want something easy to learn on, but live is really easy and you can grow with it. A bit expensive, but it beats the hell out of my ex band member flakes that never paid their share of studio rent.

Mykon · Post by **Mykon** » Sat May 21, 2005 12:15 am

I also recommend Ableton Live 4. It is the best for guitarists and has an easy interface. As soon as you install and run the program, it starts teaching you to use it.

An alternative would be Acid Pro 5. Slightly tougher learning curve but is the standard for loops. It also comes with a light version of Sound Forge, which is the industry standard for wave editing.

As a beginner, try those two before shelling out for Pro Tools or Cubase.

-Mykon

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