How to extract all sounds from Kurzweil K2500 to PC sampler?

[n-e-m-o]

Hello, my friend has Kurzweil K2500 keyboard. He is intending to sell it and go master keyboard+laptop+VST's route.
But before he does it he wants to extract all factory sounds from it and use them in PC sw sampler.. Is it even possible or how to do it?
Can you, gurus, explain it to us, neither him nor I are skilled enough to figure it out ourselves.
Thank You!!

[atomic_(no)afro]

I have no idea, but my school's music studio also has a K2500, and I too would really like to know how to extract all the factory data before I leave for the summer.

ATA

[Jeremy_NSL]

best option is this:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1182641
the next update is supposed to fix some bugs preventing external midi dumps from working properly.

Basically once the bugs are gone, I believe you'll be able to batch sample presets from your hardware synth. Except they will be unlooped - which means you'll either need to do some tedius manual looping or just sample long enough that loops don't matter.

[Andywanders]

Hello, my friend has Kurzweil K2500 keyboard. He is intending to sell it and go master keyboard+laptop+VST's route.
But before he does it he wants to extract all factory sounds from it and use them in PC sw sampler.. Is it even possible or how to do it?
Can you, gurus, explain it to us, neither him nor I are skilled enough to figure it out ourselves.
Thank You!!

WOW...!



The raw samples..?

The programs..?

The setups..?

That's a hell of a lot of sampling to do. Then editing the loop points... Phew..!

Ask him if he really needs to sell it, cos my advice would be to keep it and have the best of both worlds (software and hardware). There's isn't any software sampler that can replace the Kurzweil V.A.S.T. sound engine - at least none that I've seen.

But if he's determined to do it, then the best way would be to go from the K2500 digital out into a digital in on the soundcard. Then record each sound into a wave editor at various velocity levels and pitches. Then get busy with the editor, load each one into your softsampler, set up keymaps, modulation options etc. Not a small job.

If his soundcard has no digital input, he can re-sample the Kurzweil outputs into itself (fully explained in the manual), then save each sample onto a disk (floppy or SCSI) as a .wav or .aif file, then load them into the PC.

Either way, it's gonna take ages.

Tell him to keep it. After all, how much is a secondhand K2500 worth these days..?

[Sascha Franck]

Kontakt 2 is loading Kurzweil programs.
As I never used a K2500 or whatever I wouldn't happen to know about these 2 things though:
- How much additional "sound information" does the KRZ "produce"? Things such as internal FX, internal synth options and whatever certainly won't be covered by Kontakt 2.
- How would you get the sounds out of it in disk-based data format?

In case you had to do it all by manually recording and mapping up the patches I agree with Finbar, that'd be *quite* a task.

[geoslake]

To me theres no point in sampling this machine.
You would just get dead samples.
You'd lose the amzing filters character, and of course VAST.
So waste of time imho.
I would keep it.

[mao]

Don't sell it ! Use it as your master keyboard and
remember that it's alpha dial change the preset on every vst... uuuuuusefuuuuuullll.

Which VST are you going to buy ? Do you need analog sounds? well your k2500 does it well... Do you need textures ? well your k2500 does it ! K2500 sounds beautiful and very analog if you want (listen to the pink floyd demo 'dark side' for k2000-k2500).

Do you need drums ? Ok.... keep your K2500 and buy Stylus or Microtonic or ... well... a lot out there...

Many times I thought "mmm... I need something new... I can sell my k2000...mmm" but at the end nothing can really replace this synth at the same price... so... why do that? My K2000 is still on pole position.

Hope this helps...

[Andywanders]

Yeah...

What he said.

You won't get many "Master keyboards" with that many controlers - 2 configurable ribbons, 8 configurable sliders, footswitches, pedals, panel switches, aftertouch (have I left anything out..?

KEEP IT MAN..!