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progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Mon May 30, 2005 10:01 pm

I am a tad confused and searching the forums has me more confused. Over the past few months I have been using GEQ and GPP a lot, but am intrigued by the GCO and GUP as well. If I get GUP + GCO + GPP (+ Crunchessor), do I have a full suite, or do I have plugs that do some of the same thing. Note that for me, these will mostly be used during tracking and mixing (I use Ozone for all my mastering)

Thanks

Prog

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:18 pm

GUP is basically a stripped down GCO from what I understand. GPP is completely different as it's really just a peak limiter. I'd definately say that GCO or GUP are must haves, and if you have the cash and want the extra tweakibility (my favorite being the ability to control the linearity of the knee as it can soffen the compression effect) than go for GCO. If you're not a tweaker though, GUP is probably the way to go.

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Mon May 30, 2005 11:36 pm

Funky .. thanks a ton. You answered my question on the overlap between GCO & GUP. I can probably afford GCO soon enough, so looks like GCO it is. Playing with them as we speak.

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Tue May 31, 2005 5:51 am

OK

After playing, I am not so sure. I like the ease of use of GUP

. I am going to chew on it for a few days.

OMU · Post by **OMU** » Tue May 31, 2005 6:41 am

I would go for Sonalksis.

scam_artist · Post by **scam_artist** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:19 am

GUP is great, I'm using it for most of my compression at the moment and haven't found it too limiting... I'm very satisfied with all the results

Kraku · Post by **Kraku** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:38 am

I'm also using GUP-1 for pretty much every compression job and I always seem to get the result I'm after quite quickly.

It's quick and easy to use and doesn't eat up much CPU. /me recommends warmly!

M'Snah · Post by **M'Snah** » Tue May 31, 2005 8:06 am

AFAIK GUP is not a stripped down GCO, but it's a re-engineered compressor that is also part of GAC. GCO is more advanced but GUP has side-chaining.

GPP is a limiter and not really comparable.

Crunchessor / GCO / GUP have overlap, but the coloring of Crunchessor is different than Kjaerhus.

To be honest (and this advice should apply to myself too

): If you have to ask this type of questions about compression, GUP will be a better choice than GCO. (I bought GCO as part of the Gold group buy, but never used the advanced features yet).

I read that mixing / mastering engineers have several hard compressors because of the different coloring. This could be a reason to have GUP as a workhorse and Crunchessor for special cases

I forgot: Of course you have Classic Limiter and Classic Compressor as well

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progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:31 pm

Thanks folks. Right now, I am mostly using Crunchessor and Blockfish or Endorphin for my compression duties and using GPP for cleanup. Given the fact that I am no master of compression, I am leaning GUP (price helps too).

prog

Perfect Solitude · Post by **Perfect Solitude** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:53 pm

I don't really feel I need any compression, when I use ADL.

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:41 pm

Sounds to me also like GUP might be more suited to you. I vaguely remember Torben alluding to GUP being derived from the GAC rather than the GCO, but to me it just sounds like a stripped down GCO.

GCO certainly has a fair bit more flexibility, and more compression styles, but unless you're a compression fanatic, most people won't use all those features: Ultimately that's why I went for GUP instead of GCO - nice set of features, but it'd be rare that I use the complete set of parameters on GCO. Admittedly I also bought GUP because it has a sidechain - to me, very important...but reading between the lines, I don't think it'll be too long before GCO has a sidechain also - Torben has publicly stated that GCO is the flaghship compressor, so I don't doubt it'll get a sidechain, the only question is when. So I'd say get either GUP or GCO, not both. I also personally wouldn't buy GAC (well........I might, but not in a hurry) - you can use Eq with a sidechain - so ..........

As already mentioned, compressors have different flavours, so there is a reason to buy more than one brand. Crunchessor seems cheap, so why not?

I would buy at least one rather than use Blockfish and Endorphin on their own. Blockfish is great....but Endorphin - I wouldn't like to use that as tracking compression. Firstly you can't alter the crossover of the 2 bands, and the controls are way too limited for fine compression. It's a very capable tool, but you'll soon find channels sound livelier with a more flexible character comp such as Kjaerhus or Voxengo.

To be really honest, I would like to buy more compressors. I won't though, because that would be overkill. I have one bog standard h/w comp, and one extremely flexible niche h/w comp, so I don't need any more s/w ones - but I still bought the Otium one for drums, GUP for general duties, and still use Blockfish and one or two others (SX multiband, C3, T-Sledge etc). Personally I don't think one comp is enough to do absolutely everything.

You won't be wasting your money by buying one Kjaerhus and one Voxengo comp though.

progfusion74 · Post by **progfusion74** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:09 pm

Thanks for your comments everyone. I have decided to go for GUP.

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