Need a velocity range calculator

[Hovmod]

I'm setting up a drum kit in the eXT sampler, and I've got a varying amount of samples for each instrument.
I used to have a very convenient velocity range calculator somewhere (or a link to an online one - can't remember), but can't find it.
Does anyone have a clue where to find one? I'm way too lazy to do the math. I'd rather code the damn calculator myself than actually do the math.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[Hink]

I'm confused...to calculate what? I use vsampler with dfh...it's multi velocity zoned..too see which zone the velocity is hitting I just watch it...

[Hovmod]

Ah - I'm setting up a multi-layered kit, and right now all samples are 0-127. I used to have this calculator that would ask 'how many samples?' and then set up a nice table like this:

For 2 samples:
sample 1: 0-63
sample 2: 64-127

See what I mean? In your vsampler thing this has already been done.

[haydxn]

Why not just make a little table like this:

1 sample
0-127

2 samples
0-63
64-127

3 samples
0-42
43-84
85-127

4 samples
0-31
32-63
64-95
96-127

5 samples
0-25
26-51
52-77
78-102
103-127

[Hink]

Ah - I'm setting up a multi-layered kit, and right now all samples are 0-127. I used to have this calculator that would ask 'how many samples?' and then set up a nice table like this:

For 2 samples:
sample 1: 0-63
sample 2: 64-127

See what I mean? In your vsampler thing this has already been done.

actually vsampler doesn't do this, the sample come this at and I have made some changes. Haydxn is right, afterall how can a caculator decide what ranges will work for you?....

[Hovmod]

Well, thanks anyway.

I did the calculations, and I set up an AWESOME drumkit in the eXT sampler.

Hink, I'll explain:
The 'Velocity Range Calculator' is a simple utility that outputs a list just like Haydxn's based on how many samples you've got. A complete list af all numbers from 1 to max would be OK, but the calculator just makes it simple and quick. I used to have one, and I found it *convenient*, not essensial, to use when setting up multi-layer samples.

The kit I just set up had 2 china samples, 3 foot hihat, 4 rides, 5 hi and lo toms, 6 kicks, 8 snares, 9 open hihats and 10 closed hihats.
So I got there by using a regular calculator, I could have gotten there with a list like Hayxn's (if it was longer), and I would have gotten there with that Vel Range Calc that I used before...

And you know what? I think a sample player like the one in eXT ought to have it built in: select the samples that are to be velocity layered, and click the 'layer the bastards' button. Because it took some time, and selecting the samples one by one and setting lo and hi vel values will give me RSI long before I'll be able to play the damn drums

Anyway. I'm done for now, but next project I'll want it again.

So again, if anyone remembers where that vel range calc is to be found, speak up.

[Hink]

And you know what? I think a sample player like the one in eXT ought to have it built in: select the samples that are to be velocity layered, and click the 'layer the bastards' button. Because it took some time, and selecting the samples one by one and setting lo and hi vel values will give me RSI long before I'll be able to play the damn drums

That's what I like about dfh, it gave me a starting point. I had to map it and frankly I can't really use GM ( well I can use it for snares kicks and hats) because it has a left and a right hand for toms and snares (it also has springless snares ). So that is a drawback...but on the upside I mapped it with more toms and cymbals as well.

So are you gonna post this set somewhere? I was using a Tama soundfont before dfh, but I think there still always could be more quality drum sounds out there...

[Hink]

I googled and got this
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=& ... calculator

I couldn't open the Kurzweil page, probably because of my cookie settings...is that the one?

[jdahlb]

I've been looking for something like this myself, so inspired by this thread I made a small Excel sheet which does the work for you.



The sheet takes three inputs: number of samples, minimum and maximum velocity.

Click the image to download the xls-file.

It's very basic, as you can see. Oh, and it has been created in a Norwegian version of Excel. Hopefully the formulae will be converted successfully.. I've only converted from an English version to a Norwegian one before, so I have no idea if it works...

Jorgen.

[Hovmod]

So are you gonna post this set somewhere?

I'll have to find out if I'm allowed.
The samples were given away freely as part of a demo song for Reason, but I don't know if I'm supposed to give away an eXT variety where I've converted the 32 bit aif samples to 16 bit wavs and so on.

Now don't PM me about it or anything... *whistle*

[Hovmod]

I've been looking for something like this myself, so inspired by this thread I made a small Excel sheet which does the work for you.



The sheet takes three inputs: number of samples, minimum and maximum velocity.

Click the image to download the xls-file.

It's very basic, as you can see. Oh, and it has been created in a Norwegian version of Excel. Hopefully the formulae will be converted successfully.. I've only converted from an English version to a Norwegian one before, so I have no idea if it works...

Jorgen.

Topp!
Det virka helt fint her!
Takk takk, det blir kjekt å ha...

[jdahlb]

Bare hyggelig!

Bra at det virket..

J.

[haydxn]

Ha! i just felt like making a quick little calculator for it too. I only made it go up to 25, because the basic integer calculation routine i made for it isn't so hot for the bigger amounts, and i can't imagine anyone wanting to do more than 25 equal layers anyway!


Download (PC only)


the calculation always gives the highest velocity range any leftovers from the integer truncations. in other words, they'll all be equal, but if any need to be bigger, it will be the highest one.

There's only one control, so i don't need to explain how to use it.

[Hink]

to think my father was part of the design for radar and more so, missle guidance systems (he designed they equipment used to test gyroscopes) and all he had was a slide rule...

[haydxn]

fixed! there we go if you still fancy it you can download the calculator from the link above.

the control lets you click-drag up/down to set the value, or you can also use your mousewheel on it