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crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:30 am

As if we didn't already know that top U.S recording empires have bought the airwaves, it's a relief to see some proof from time to time.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,163537,00.html

For a time I just assumed that I was getting old and out of touch but I am now convinced that today's POP music just sucks balls for the most part. These suck as songs
are a result of payoffs and kickbacks as we all knew and or suspected.

I actually liked some top 40 from the 70's, 80's and early 90's.

Left Headphone · Post by **Left Headphone** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:36 am

I actually liked some top 40 from the 70's

but not disco...

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:39 am

Left Headphone wrote:I actually liked some top 40 from the 70's but not disco...

I always hated disco too. Though I could tolerate the bee gees.

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:47 am

crimsontider wrote:Though I could tolerate the bee gees.

Surely you jest...

shamann · Post by **shamann** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:52 am

What's so shocking? Hasn't the industry been fairly straightforward about payola in the last decade? That's how Limp Bizkit became famous, there was that stunt where a radio station in [Seattle? Portland?] played their first single 24 hours straight, bought and paid for by the record company.

jackson · Post by **jackson** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:54 am

Interesting yet unsurprising article and all, but what the hell were you doing on foxnews.com?

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:17 am

jackson wrote:Interesting yet unsurprising article and all, but what the hell were you doing on foxnews.com?

Because I'm a concervative maybe?

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:22 am

some (very bored) future historian wrote:At this point began the threads inevitable descent into the bowels of HPC

Bruce Bartlett · Post by **Bruce Bartlett** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:23 am

crimsontider wrote: I always hated disco too. Though I could tolerate the bee gees.

The Bee Gees were not disco.

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:28 am

Bruce Bartlett wrote:
crimsontider wrote: I always hated disco too. Though I could tolerate the bee gees.
The Bee Gees were not disco.

Are you joking?
During the period we are discussing yes the Bee Gees were disco.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_Gees

farlukar · Post by **farlukar** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:17 am

Proof?
On Fox News?

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:20 am

I always hated hip-hop too. Though I could tolerate Vanilla Ice.

crimsontider · Post by **crimsontider** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:37 pm

farlukar wrote:Proof?
On Fox News?

It was reported at every major news source yesterday and today......if you even bother to read them fark

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:16 pm

crimsontider wrote:
jackson wrote:Interesting yet unsurprising article and all, but what the hell were you doing on foxnews.com?
Because I'm a concervative maybe? :wink:

If you're a real, honest conservative,* you ought to be all the more appalled that so-called neo-conservatives (actually disciples of Leo Strauss, a radical Trotskyite, the exact opposite of what true conservatives stand for) have stolen the name "conservative" from you and are abusing it to dupe voters into believing they are conservatives. Fox News, aka their propaganda division, is one of the primary weapons in their campaign of deception and brainwashing of unsuspecting Americans.

If you're a supporter of neo-cons who hold everyone not in their inner circle (yes, that would include you) in utter contempt... well, sorry to hear it. Hope you wake up soon and pull the wool off.

About the Sony thing: I was terribly surprised to learn this was news. Slapping the same old stuff on a new shingle doesn't mean the recipe's changed. It was ever thus and until accountability is enforced it shall ever so be.
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* -- yes, honest conservatives DO exist. Their party has been co-opted by the PNAC, and they've been laying low because the neo-cons hunt them down and drive them out of office. The sooner true conservatism is able to resurface, the sooner honest liberalism will have honorable opposition again.

Bruce Bartlett · Post by **Bruce Bartlett** » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:41 pm

crimsontider wrote:
Are you joking?
During the period we are discussing yes the Bee Gees were disco.

No, I am not joking. Anyone who says that the Bee Gees were disco has either heard very little disco, and/or very little Bee Gees.

The Bee Gees were the 60s equivalent of Hanson: pure pop. And they were very good at it, but like all boy bands, people got tired of them. For a few years in the mid-70s, they did up a handful of their songs in a style which vaguely resembled the club music of the time. A few of these songs got included on a soundtrack album to a movie supposedly about disco, which went on to become one of the best-selling albums ever. But it was still pop: 4-minute songs with radio-friendly lyrics, tight arrangements, catchy melodies.

Putting out half a dozen pop tunes that have been dressed up to sound like club music do not make them a disco act. The Rolling Stones, Rod Stewart, David Bowie, and many other pop/rock acts did a danceable tune or two then too -- does that make them disco? Queensryche had a big hit with a ballad -- does that make them Easy Rock? Labelling the Bee Gees disco is like calling Phil Collins electro-clash because he did that Sussudio track back in the 80s.

Cerrone, Alec R Costandinos, Chic, Donna Summer... now they were disco. The productions of Jacques Morali, Gregg Diamond, Giorgio Moroder, Boris Midney, Patrick Adams... now that was disco. Long pieces, risque lyrics full of double-entendres, over-the-top production, in forms which varied from funk-with-strings to elaborate conceptual symphonies... that's disco.

Most people who have such strong opinions about disco have never actually heard it.

Payola Shocker: J-Lo Hits, Others Were 'Bought' by Sony.