KVR Audio

gordon_freeman · Post by **gordon_freeman** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:16 am

I'm not trying to abuse Receptor or something... But to me it's just weird why people buy it.

It costs more than a PC (or Laptop) with quality VST host and a good sound card, it needs special plugins... And you can't record and create your song using receptor like you can if you have a PC. The only reason which I see here is that some people dont like to have a PC on a stage... But I personally feel it is not a really weighty reason. Maybe there are reasons which I dont know??

tuz · Post by **tuz** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:20 am

i have a feeling this will be moved but imo people buy receptor because it's a great tool to release the cpu load from your computer. of course it costs a lot of money but you have to weigh how much you want it and how useful it will be to you. maybe you're a professional and you make money by making music or something. i can definitely see why it's such a great product for some people.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:23 am

and it is a nice shade of blue

gordon_freeman · Post by **gordon_freeman** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:26 am

i can definitely see why it's such a great product for some people.

So WHY? As for me it is enough CPU power on modern computers to make completely synth-based music. Professionals never use huge number of effects (I can't be sure though

i'm not a one). And also there are double-chip systems.

I started this thread because I see - it is popular, a lot of people say Receptor is great, but I still can't realize why they say so.

TechnoWeeniePas · Post by **TechnoWeeniePas** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:30 am

I think alot of it is that its easily racked with the rest of your touring/recording gear, its got a nice front panel and computer interface, and its supposably quite stable compared to a windows box. I cant really say for sure though as I myself cant afford one...maybe some day though...

egarrard · Post by **egarrard** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:34 am

gordon_freeman wrote:Professionals never use huge number of effects.

gordon_freeman · Post by **gordon_freeman** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:37 am

want you say it's not true?..

xander · Post by **xander** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:46 am

I totally understand your question and the reason for it.

When I first heard about Receptor, I couldn't for the life of me figure out why anyone except a 'toy collector' would want one, but after thinking about it for a while and learning more about it, I can see where it's value might be for some.

Even so, lots of people I know buy used PCs and ethernet them into a 'networked DAW', which is way cheaper than Receptor (and more flexible IMHO).

If I had the cabbage, I'd buy one to use on stage maybe & use it with a PCR-30 keyboard or something, because maybe it would be handy to quickly switch through various FX and pre-programmed sequencers.

The main problem for me doing that playing live is that, as many know, playing live is usually a dirty cramped unpredictable environment for such equipment.

For instance, the band I play with live (called NONO) here in Asia needs heavy duty machinery with massive unbreakable levers, knobs, steering wheels and stomp boxes or we'd never survive a single gig. I play bass guitar, minimoog/Rhodes and sing, and as well we have a fulltime keyboard player using a DX7 and a real SC Prophet 5 (which sounds way better than any NI emulated one - trust me), a guitar player and a drummer.

I think MOST groups like us simply don't have the comfort level with a PC set up on the stage, using a delicate little mouse and all the absolutely terribly non-robust cables and connectors that you must use in a PC setup -- especially in outdoor gigs (of course, if you're Peter Gabriel then this is not a problem

).

So, still for me, Receptor is a 'nice-to-have' but there are cheaper more flexible alternatives for the home-studio DAW, which I think is Receptor's intended/mainstay market. Still, if you've got the bucks, then why not?

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Max el Belga · Post by **Max el Belga** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:25 am

I wish I had the money or the permission of my wife to buy me one. I envy every owner of it !

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:28 am

do actually people buy Receptor?

Paulie Phonick · Post by **Paulie Phonick** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:36 am

It's still there, so I believe they do. And some won it a while ago - that would make at least two Receptor owners in the world

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:41 am

I agree that a receptor can be a nice tool if you see it as a perfomance instrument etc. But these arguments doesn't hold really

tuz wrote:i have a feeling this will be moved but imo people buy receptor because it's a great tool to release the cpu load from your computer.

An extra computer costs way less and frees your main computer from cpu load.

tuz wrote:of course it costs a lot of money but you have to weigh how much you want it and how useful it will be to you. maybe you're a professional and you make money by making music or something. i can definitely see why it's such a great product for some people.

See it as an instrument instead. You don't even have to justify why you want a certain instrument, it's enough that you want it

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:43 am

I only really think of it as a LIVE box. I never really think about it being in the studio.

I see it as a very portable and stable way of carting your kit around.

The way I think about it is that quite alot of private studios now are virtual with minimal outboard gear. You can either cart around a computer (or laptop), or have Receptor.

It is quite expensive though. I would have thought that it was a bit more expensive than it needs to be to tell you the truth.

It's nice that it's open-ended and that is a selling point. However, what's more important as far as I can see is - what does it include on it when you get it?

I went through the website and I have to say I was a little confused. It seems like you get a $400 voucher to purchase certain VST plugs that you can use in it? I'm not sure if I really understand that right.

If you have a boatload of virtual gear that you're wanting to take on the road, I can see a few people having an issue with buying this as a harddrive/processor/interface concept. Isn't that what a computer is - but cheaper? For portability - try a laptop and then you can use it as the sequencer as well.

If you're not buying it for your own kit but for what's included then it still seems expensive. I mean - what really is included? That's what I was struggling to understand.

There still seems to be some limitations on what you can do as well. You know if you could load EnergyXT on it and use that as a host on Receptor I'd be even more impressed, but it doesn't really claim compatibility with a sufficient number of devices for my liking making it less extensible than a laptop combination again.

After saying all that though, I would still consider it for a live setup if I was nervous about how a laptop is going to hold up under the CPU drain of what I'm doing. CPU problems would be a very big concern if I ever really tried to perform live with a laptop. However, it's a very big commit at the price I've seen it listed as in Australia and I can do all the fancy layering etc that I want in EnergyXT if I feel the urge.

Caleb

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:01 am

Why do people buy Receptor? - Simple. If they didn't, then Muse Research, the transnational corporate godfather of Receptor and KVR, would not be able to buy the Receptor ad space on KVR that they pay themselves for.

And if they couldn't afford to pay themselves for KVR then we couldn't come here to KVR and question the purpose of Receptor.

It's part of their inverted-pyramid cross-bred-viral-marketing loopback system that we're not supposed to be aware of.

Until now.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:04 am

Caleb