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braj · Post by **braj** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:33 pm

I hace a relative with young doughters that are classically trained pianists, and he wants to know what a good application would be for them to use to compose and also read/print sheet music. I obviously recommended Sibelius since it seems a standard, but is this appropriate for their age group? Can someone give me any advice?

Thanks!

XeRo9009 · Post by **XeRo9009** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:42 pm

Awave studio is a good one... (if you want to make MIDIs)

ceenda · Post by **ceenda** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 11:42 pm

I recently installed Overture SE from my GPO Extras disc. I'm quite impressed at how simple everything is at first glance. Just the page, staff and score and a row of icons at the top for notes, ties etc.

But there's a ton of stuff 'under the hood' for more complex arrangements.

But Overture (until V4 is released, of course) doesn't create any sound of itself. It directs MIDI to whatever device/software you want to host the instruments. So unless you want to set that all up beforehand for them it might be a bit too complex.

aafuss · Post by **aafuss** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:19 am

bMix (for creating MIDI music):
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?26000000037248

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:27 am

aafuss wrote:bMix (for creating MIDI music):
http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?26000000037248

Please don't take this the wrong way, but NEVER spam a thread of mine with your shit applications again.

Thanks.

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:40 am

I am fond of midisoft

It doesn't have vst support or anything, and for my purposes it can be slow, as I end up importing my midi files into Tracktion before doing any 'production'.

But it is the most intuitive notation editor I have ever seen, and I think I have demo'd all of them.

In any case, for general midi stuff, it is easy as pie. Just the thing for a talented kid to work out ideas with.

bobbyblank · Post by **bobbyblank** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:45 am

teddy!
bad dog.
Finale songwiter is simple and cheap. 50 USD. maybe?

bobbyblank · Post by **bobbyblank** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:47 am

no, i think herodotus has the better match. i'll have to check that out myself.

jtxx000 · Post by **jtxx000** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:50 am

www.anvilstudio.com <= for sheet music
www.sonymediasoftware.com/download/step2.asp?DID=551 <= for looped based music

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:52 am

I had a copy of Logic Hit Kit laying around, and iut actually looks like it may do the job, and for free too!

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:45 am

I would have him have a look at Band in a box http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm
Demo video:http://64.40.109.185/pgmusic/wmv/bb_overview128.wmv
As a tutorial type of thing for kids I think it beats everything else on the market.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:39 am

Ezy Ryder wrote:I would have him have a look at Band in a box http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm
Demo video:http://64.40.109.185/pgmusic/wmv/bb_overview128.wmv
As a tutorial type of thing for kids I think it beats everything else on the market.

Actually the 'kids' are way beyond most people I know by far, way beyond me, playing since they were 3 or so, but they really don't have sequencer experience. I have Band in a Box but I don't really think it's along the lines of what they want to do (compose classical piano). Logic Hit Kit is really simple and I can see them getting what they want out of that, and it's free (well, I'll give them my copy that cost $20 or something).

BTW, @ aafuss, I'm pretty damn sure 'Logic' is a registered trademark and you better change your app's name and ad items, because saying stuff like 'Logic for PC is back' or whatever is really pushing it.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:21 am

Sibelius Compass looks interesting - specifically designed to teach kids composition:

http://www.sibelius.com/products/compass/

My daughter has had no problems getting to grips with Traktion but it doesn't have scoring as such.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:40 am

aMUSEd wrote:Sibelius Compass looks interesting - specifically designed to teach kids composition:

http://www.sibelius.com/products/compass/

My daughter has had no problems getting to grips with Traktion but it doesn't have scoring as such.

That definitely looks interesting - for me

I could definitely use some lessons.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:45 am

braj wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Sibelius Compass looks interesting - specifically designed to teach kids composition:

http://www.sibelius.com/products/compass/

My daughter has had no problems getting to grips with Traktion but it doesn't have scoring as such.
That definitely looks interesting - for me I could definitely use some lessons.

yeah me too

I like the interface on the Compass sequencer too, very well laid out and clear - I assume it's just using basic midi, no VST's etc, but useful for educational purposes. (Bit confusing that they call it the "Tracker" though)

edit: must be using midi as it says at the bottom of the page:

Students develop music in the Tracker, and can also transfer it to Sibelius 3 or any sequencer.

Scoring/simple sequencer for 10 year old children?