I am hugely surprised that a company as NI with all their experience and knowledge sell such an unfinished and raw product. Yes, the engine is top notch as always, the sonic palette is endless but the experience of using this plug-in is painful. You can not scroll options like changing wavetables or modes on the fly, yes the same is true for Massive but now there is a lot more of everything and you have to navigate with a mouse click every single time and it is a lot of clicks while exploring and designing a sound. There are no options to deal with presets, you can not create your own folders, well you can, but it will be shown as a single list and when there are a lot of presets this list will become a long long one, there is no option to find presets by author or bank, NIs own expansions are installed in the Public Document folder meaning that you will have presets in different places without an option to make a single one Massive X presets folder. And overall Massive X files are scattered all over the place for some unknown reason. Initially I thought that NI will make an user experience more pleasant with time on this synth, but now after couple of years nothing has been improved on this matter and I found myself using this synth only once in one song because of how clumsy it is, and I think it deserve more, but 3 years after it still gives an impression of being a very raw and unfinished product. So in the end this is NOT a synth I would advise my friends to buy even though it is a sonic powerhouse and I've seen a lot of comments on other platforms expressing dissatisfaction with Massive X, some even call it the most failing NI product ever. This is something I might agree with and it is not that it is failed at it's core, no, it has the potential but it is all those small things like the preset management that makes big different, especially for a go to everyday synth. And the most baffling thing for me is - this NI synth I'm talking about! like wth? Why? Has it been outsourced and developers stubbornly want to keep it as clumsy as possible? Or what is the reason? Cause it is not some obscure option I'm talking about it's the basic things that should be obvious by default.
It may be great, however I would give Native Instruments ZERO stars for the tiny notice of Massive X being AVX dependent. And what is AVX anyway? Try finding out if your CPU is AVX or not or to find any information on upgrade CPU with AVX suitable for your computer. The great workhorse MAC Pro 2009-2013, the only module built MAC up til comming fall, does not have AVX. I guess many people are pissed by Native almost hiding the limit information of Massive X. Just before Massive X was released Native started a marketing campain for upgrading Komplete. The new Massive was one of the most focused selling points in the campain. You really need to look hard to find any information on the AVX limit. I know techonolgy moves ahead and sooner or later there will come a product that your old computer cannot handle, I do however question Natives marketing moral and I also question how the Native standing is the MAC Pro community these days.
Rumdrum.
Thanks for the heads up, that's good info.
I have one of those old Mac Pro's, actually mine is even older, 2008 (just collecting dust). However I have a 2011 iMac core i5 and it supports AVX. The iMac was a hold over until they released another tower, but the new Mac Pro's are too expensive. I can see how people would be upset, then again those are pretty old.
I've added that criticism to my "bad points" list.
Get used to it, AVX is going to become the norm. The latest DUNE update requires it, too, and others will follow.
Nope. Dune 3 (and previous Dunes) runs ok on non AVX CPUs. I may run better with AVX but it does not depend on AVX to run. Same as a couple more instruments. They run on both AVX and non AVX CPUs. Massive X is, as far as I know, the first to run ONLY on AVX. I do not mind Native developing products for the future, and I see that at a given time old computeres will not be able to run new products. I am totally fine with that. What I however think is not very good customer service is not to give proper information during a heavy upgrade marketing campain where MX was one of the selling points. It is right that there is a sentence there telling it requires AVX, but who knows really the impact of that sentence? And if you have stumbled accross the term before and bought or downloaded anything that had AVX in the specs, your experience would be that is does in fact run, giving the term AVX no further worry. Native is using their mail database for the campain and it would be of almost no effort to send out a kind of warning to the huge community of MAC Pro users that MX will not run on their computer, or at least add the word "Only" in the AVX sentence. As it was a lot of people feel fooled. Native is, with the sentence they added to the specs "lawfully protected", but as for customer service it is way under acceptance.
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