Waldorf Largo

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VariKusBrainZ
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9127 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:06 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:09 am
Komplexer has way better stock presets IMO and generally impresses my ears more than Largo and the interface looks unnecessarily cluttered thanks to the fake chrome knobs, plus I hate the red text.
TBH, I preferred Komplexer as well in terms of sound (it has that HW vintage quality, like the older Waldorf synths... somewhat of a "airy" sound). I got over it though. :) Komplexer is 32-bit only, doesn't even work well with wrappers (GUI issues, and crashes with jBridge), and I always had to reinstall it on everly half yearls big Windows update as well. Not worth it anymore. You can get reasonably close with Largo, even though it sounds a bit different (more top end, filters sound different etc.).
Im on Bitwig so can use those none 64bit plugs :)
The only problem with Win10 updates I had was having to re-input the serial into the registry.

I bought a MicroQ when they hit the scene.
It broke just after the warrently period. Processor issue.Id hardly used it :(
Still have it in the loft.
Immaculate but bricked.

chk071
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24697 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:21 am

:?

I nearly bought a microQ some years ago on Ebay, when the prices were in the 230-250 € range. Wish I had bought it, as the prices really only go up and up now.

On the other hand, as you say, you never know how much maintainance there will be necessary. Or... the device breaks down completely.
Plugins and a DAW. On a operating system. Which runs on a computer.

v1o
KVRAF
2267 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:53 am

ATN69 wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:04 am
Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:53 am
ATN69 wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:25 am
I almost regret buying my 32" , 4K computer monitor. Some plugins including Largo is tiny. I been searching for a way to enlarge Largo. Can the GUI be enlarged? Even the old DCAM synth squad have this option.

Largo sounds great though so I don't regret buying it.
See my posts on the previous two pages. 55" 4k here and completely unreadable from 3m back, BUT word is they are working on a scaling GUI update, so fingers crossed...
I hope it will happen :tu:
Have you considered running your DAW using display scaling? 4K is a lot of pixels.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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Hermetech Mastering
KVRian
1277 posts since 30 May, 2003 from Milan, Italy

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:22 am

Global scaling at 225% here for Windows, still can't see the Largo GUI.

Shiek927
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564 posts since 14 May, 2014

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:28 pm

abi wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:29 am
Shiek927 wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:08 pm
abi wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:49 am
@ATN69

absolutely! just wanted to warn people because it seems like it wont happen very soon!

I also hope that this sale gives Waldorf a good financial boost! I only used a microq (which was borrowed back then) for a brief period and I think that Largo represents a certain modern Waldorf character (it has been more than a decade since I had the microq here). The elicenser and maybe the cpu demands (in 2009) kept this from becoming a soft synth favourite.
I'm planning on purchasing a MicroQ later this year. I much prefer the vintage character and the Q/MicroQ is one of my favorite pieces of hardware :D
Hm, from my memory there is no such a BIG difference between Largo and MicroQ character wise. What I was trying to say was that Largo reminds me quite a bit of MicroQ. Also the Build quality of the knobs on the MicroQ is said to be mediocre. I personally can’t find reasons to invest in 20 year old digital hardware when there is a virtual equivalent at a ridiculous price tag like 29 dollars. But that´s just me.

If you live in Germany by chance send me a pm, a friend told me he wants to get rid of his MicroQ.
I had the MicroQ once and it absolutely blew Komplexer out of the water. There is definitely no software equal to the Q/MicroQ available today.

Dasheesh
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3768 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:32 pm

arcsyn fills the microQ hole and i will die on that hill. largo is almost opposite of microQ. largo is one of the most ultra digital shiny things i've ever heard- like scrapping metal. microQ as all about the MUSH.

Shiek927
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564 posts since 14 May, 2014

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:48 pm

Dasheesh wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:32 pm
arcsyn fills the microQ hole and i will die on that hill. largo is almost opposite of microQ. largo is one of the most ultra digital shiny things i've ever heard- like scrapping metal. microQ as all about the MUSH.
Agree to disagree! It's super lush, analog-sounding and probably the best sounding VA I've heard, but it's really easy for it to sound klang-y and metallic. It also sounds like it has this low-frequency bump and mid-frequency presence, so it's a very punchy, present and digital sounding synth

v1o
KVRAF
2267 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:50 am

What's up with the distortion effect? It seems to make signals get quieter rather than louder. Have the Waldorf guys never hooked up a distortion pedal to their synths before. To be honest the whole effects section is kinda quirky.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

chk071
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24697 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:21 am

Edit: Nevermind, thought you mean the drive knob in the filter section.
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ATN69
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2082 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:31 pm

v1o wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:53 am
ATN69 wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:04 am
Hermetech Mastering wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:53 am
ATN69 wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:25 am
I almost regret buying my 32" , 4K computer monitor. Some plugins including Largo is tiny. I been searching for a way to enlarge Largo. Can the GUI be enlarged? Even the old DCAM synth squad have this option.

Largo sounds great though so I don't regret buying it.
See my posts on the previous two pages. 55" 4k here and completely unreadable from 3m back, BUT word is they are working on a scaling GUI update, so fingers crossed...
I hope it will happen :tu:
Have you considered running your DAW using display scaling? 4K is a lot of pixels.
I tried everything I can think of. The effective viewing area will be quite small if I am to find a setting that works. I think using a second monitor is the best option and luckily the old monitor I have still works. I just need to re-arrange my setup to physically find space for it :wink:
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Jbravo
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1491 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:46 pm

Shiek927 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:48 pm

Agree to disagree! It's super lush, analog-sounding and probably the best sounding VA I've heard, but it's really easy for it to sound klang-y and metallic. It also sounds like it has this low-frequency bump and mid-frequency presence, so it's a very punchy, present and digital sounding synth

so its analog-sounding AND digital sounding? I was expecting gorgeous warmth and organic presence* but it sounds very sharp and in your face which would be great for EDM rather than old fashioned synth music.

*like Frank Zappa said, writing about music is like dancing about architecture. The same goes for describing the sound of virtual synths :hihi:
THIS IS MY MUSIC: https://sptfy.com/dn31 :phones:

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zerocrossing
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10217 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:53 pm

chk071 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:43 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:09 am
Komplexer has way better stock presets IMO and generally impresses my ears more than Largo and the interface looks unnecessarily cluttered thanks to the fake chrome knobs, plus I hate the red text.
TBH, I preferred Komplexer as well in terms of sound (it has that HW vintage quality, like the older Waldorf synths... somewhat of a "airy" sound). I got over it though. :) Komplexer is 32-bit only, doesn't even work well with wrappers (GUI issues, and crashes with jBridge), and I always had to reinstall it on everly half yearls big Windows update as well. Not worth it anymore. You can get reasonably close with Largo, even though it sounds a bit different (more top end, filters sound different etc.).
I remember making the move from Komplexer and I remember getting pretty close in general and the extra features of Largo made it pretty easy to sell my Komplexer license.

I still love Largo. There’s a lot of great wavetable synths out these days, but Largo has a character where a lot of them just sound generic.
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abi
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739 posts since 11 May, 2004 from cologne,germany

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:47 pm

here are some sounds i created.

https://soundcloud.com/abiuslu/largo-sounds

i think it sounds great and i´m having great fun learning it. compared to something like zebra the options seemed limited at first but this is a really nice deep machine. in the above presets i mostly used just one osc of the three, no unison and no layers. no internal fx just some delay from valhalla delay.

recursive one
KVRAF
4908 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:50 pm

zerocrossing wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:53 pm
There’s a lot of great wavetable synths out these days, but Largo has a character where a lot of them just sound generic.
+ many

Got Largo few days ago, already a huge fan
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ramseysounds
KVRian
811 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK

Re: Waldorf Largo

Post Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:00 am

Picked this up for $29 at the weekend. Sounds good on first review but wish the GUI was scalable and the preset browser by type doesn’t seem to function?
I wonder what happens if I press this button...

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