What's up at Plogue?

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davidv@plogue
KVRian
710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:09 pm

Lucastyle wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:03 pm
David is there going to be a demo? sorry if this has been addressed already I can't seem to find any info.
Eventually (as in a few weeks)
Cheers
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

Lucastyle
KVRist
102 posts since 5 Sep, 2011

Post Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:34 pm

Also is the current price an introductory price or is it the final price?

davidv@plogue
KVRian
710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:22 am

Lucastyle wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:34 pm
Also is the current price an introductory price or is it the final price?
This is the final price.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

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gentleclockdivider
KVRAF
3251 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:16 pm

No demo ?
ANd please if you release a demo , get rid of the 5 min. restriction . perhaps make it 10 or 15 if you feel rock n' roll enough ( nobody will sample it ) :)
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davidv@plogue
KVRian
710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 2:29 pm

Demo should be there next week or the one after tops.
Same restriction.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

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gentleclockdivider
KVRAF
3251 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:09 pm

Why only 5 minutes , it really doesn't make any sense ..are you so afraid people might sample it ?
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davidv@plogue
KVRian
710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:10 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:09 pm
Why only 5 minutes , it really doesn't make any sense ..are you so afraid people might sample it ?
No but render full songs yes. Many people have bragged doing so in the past.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

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tonedef71
KVRian
1306 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:10 pm

davidv@plogue wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:10 pm
gentleclockdivider wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:09 pm
Why only 5 minutes , it really doesn't make any sense ..are you so afraid people might sample it ?
No but render full songs yes. Many people have bragged doing so in the past.
Plogue could run a promotional contest next month after the demo is released: the Super Five-minute Challenge. Folks must use the demo version of chipsynth SFC to create an original track (up to five minutes in length) that highlights the chipsynth SFC. Only one entry may be submitted to Plogue for judging. The prize for the winning entry could be a NotForResale license of chipsynth SFC. :shrug:
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Greenstorm33
KVRian
783 posts since 27 Apr, 2012

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:18 pm

Five minutes isn't good for anything more than quickly running through the presets. Which isn't really much more helpful than listening to demos. I'm interested in your chipsynth products but have not yet bought any due to the inability to properly test them.
Softsynth addict and electronic music enthusiast.
"Destruction is the work of an afternoon. Creation is the work of a lifetime."

Winstontaneous
KVRAF
1945 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Post Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:49 pm

Greenstorm33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:18 pm
Five minutes isn't good for anything more than quickly running through the presets. Which isn't really much more helpful than listening to demos. I'm interested in your chipsynth products but have not yet bought any due to the inability to properly test them.
That's my perspective too...

Cochrane
KVRist
85 posts since 5 Oct, 2001

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:30 am

Sorry for the OT, but I was trying to access Plogue's forum (which for me is a vault for Bidule tricks and ideas...) and I get a "Forbidden" error.
Is the forum termporarily offline?

Thanks and many compliments for Your new Chipsynth SFC (which I'll buy in the next weeks, so I will complete my Plogue collection :) ).

Cochrane

PS which will be the next one: FC or 64 (ot PCE or a DXonSteroids or...)? I hope 64! ;)

davidv@plogue
KVRian
710 posts since 3 Aug, 2001 from Montreal

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:41 am

Cochrane wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:30 am
Sorry for the OT, but I was trying to access Plogue's forum (which for me is a vault for Bidule tricks and ideas...) and I get a "Forbidden" error.
Is the forum termporarily offline?
Its up here now. Hmm.

Thanks for the comments on SFC. Next one is not 100% decided, but as it stands now its one that has never been "fully" announced.
David Viens, Plogue Art et Technologie Inc. Montreal.
https://twitter.com/plgDavid
https://plogue.com

tssf
KVRer
1 posts since 19 Sep, 2020

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 am

Hi all! I'm new here but have been monitoring this thread for a while :)

Full disclosure, I'm not an employee of Plogue but I've been working with them closely on csSFC for a long while. So my opinions may be a bit biased but imo I feel like I'd still have this opinion even if I wasn't involved.

Anyway the 5 minute time limit is understandable because the software is their livelihood. I've had my work stolen and distributed without my permission before and it just sucks putting so much time and effort into something and not seeing anything out of it.

All that being said, the 5 minute limit shouldn't be a deal breaker because it's pretty easy to just load a new instance (or replacing an instance). In cakewalk, my DAW of choice, it's 3 mouse clicks. There are also plenty of videos out there reviewing the software to show how it works. I have a tutorial series I'm in the middle of producing to show how it works as well as have a 25 minute overview video explaining nearly every button, knob, and function of the plugin.

David's video itself shows he's at least done $40 worth of research on the SNES hardware, and the progression he's made in the SNES audio emulation scene alone is worth a view of the research that went into this.

All in all, I really don't think a 5 minute demo should be your deal breaker, though I do respect everyone's opinion here.

Edit: fixed a typo

Cochrane
KVRist
85 posts since 5 Oct, 2001

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:50 am

davidv@plogue wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:41 am
Cochrane wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:30 am
Sorry for the OT, but I was trying to access Plogue's forum (which for me is a vault for Bidule tricks and ideas...) and I get a "Forbidden" error.
Is the forum termporarily offline?
Its up here now. Hmm.
I've tried again and on Firefox 52.x (on XP, long story...) I still got the "403 Forbidden" error, but on the same PC, using a webkit based browser (Maxthon) it's up and running. Very strange...
davidv@plogue wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:41 am
Thanks for the comments on SFC. Next one is not 100% decided, but as it stands now its one that has never been "fully" announced.
Even more exciting! Great!

Cheers,
Cochrane

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pough
KVRAF
3093 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver

Post Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:56 am

Winstontaneous wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:49 pm
Greenstorm33 wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:18 pm
Five minutes isn't good for anything more than quickly running through the presets. Which isn't really much more helpful than listening to demos. I'm interested in your chipsynth products but have not yet bought any due to the inability to properly test them.
That's my perspective too...
If there's one thing I've learned on KvR over the past 17 years it's that no matter which demo limitation you use there will always be people who say they don't like the demo limitation and won't buy the plugin as a result. If Plogue went with something else the number of complaints would remain the same even if the names changed.

I'm not saying you should change your position, just that some incompatibility is inevitable in a world with thieves. I personally refuse to even consider plugins that use iLok. Some honest customers will get locked out (by preference) along with the thieves.
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