Next updates to u-he Bazille

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themagicalkamja
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122 posts since 14 Jul, 2016

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:10 am

Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.

Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!

AnX
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3632 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:23 am

Why dont you ask in the u-he forum, you might get an answer from the devs

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beely
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1609 posts since 6 Jul, 2013

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:26 am

themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.
Zebra is *way* older and *way* more in need of some updates than the more recent stuff, imo...

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resistent
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420 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from Beneath the surface

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:54 am

themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.

Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
Beside (the mentioned) fact that you should ask u-he I don't know what is missing in Bazille? What kind of Update do you expect? While Zebra's and Diva's concept is open for some functional updates Bazille is a pretty close system. What do you think Bazille needs?
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Jax Pok
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652 posts since 2 Mar, 2015 from UK

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:02 am

What's Bazille missing?

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ATS
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6028 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:02 am

themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.

Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!

Hey I am thinking about getting Bazille in light of the group buy for some awesome presets for it. Why do you think it is their most impressive product?

Thanks! :)
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ATS
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6028 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:03 am

Jax Pok wrote:What's Bazille missing?

like... stuff :hihi:
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wagtunes
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14354 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:03 am

I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.

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ATS
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6028 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:12 am

wagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.

well I think it is something you could take care of, better presets. I think the factory sounds are terrible.
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wagtunes
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Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:15 am

ATS wrote:
wagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.

well I think it is something you could take care of, better presets. I think the factory sounds are terrible.
Well I already put out a library for Bazille.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/bazille-demo

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Urs
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22959 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:30 am

themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.

Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
Hehehe, neither Diva nor Zebra have seen feature updates since we released Bazille. They're both due for it though.

I think Bazille is the most beloved synth internally at u-he headquarters and I can think of many ways to improve it. However, currently we're in the midst of something else so I can't elaborate much.

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.jon
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5500 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 11:43 am

I'd love to see visualisation of the modulation on the destination knob arc like Reaktor Blocks has.

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foosnark
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4487 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:16 pm

All kinds of stuff could be added to Bazille. It's just a question of fitting it in without making it bloated, or having to completely redesign the UI around swapping optional modules around, so it starts to resemble something like Reaktor instead.

For instance, something I've kind of wanted is a simple delay, to build a Karplus-Strong patch for instance.

themagicalkamja
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122 posts since 14 Jul, 2016

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:17 pm

resistent wrote:I don't know what is missing in Bazille? What kind of Update do you expect? While Zebra's and Diva's concept is open for some functional updates Bazille is a pretty close system. What do you think Bazille needs?
Jax Pok wrote:What's Bazille missing?
wagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.
You guys just need to be more creative, there is always room for improvement :hihi:

Just off the top of my head, in no particular order:

- More modulatable parameters (e.g., individual EG/ramp stages, LFO symmetry, stack voices)
- Improved processing efficiency
- FX modulation
- Manual LFO/EG retrig
- More FX
- More upper waveshapes
- More pan mod sources (e.g., noise)
- Selectable cable tension (the droop needlessly obscures the GUI in more complex patches)
- The ability to route gates and triggers freely
- The ability to modulate modulation amounts :tu:
- The ability to load ALL parameters (like seq steps, stack voices) into Live – I think these are MIDI mappable from within Bazille, but not Live can’t recognize them for some reason…)

I can't speak to the coding difficulty, but all these changes could be made without overhauling the GUI, which is awesome. Long live gearporn!
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pdxindy
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14490 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Re: Next updates to u-he Bazille

Post Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:19 pm

themagicalkamja wrote:
Just off the top of my head, in no particular order:

- More modulatable parameters (e.g., individual EG/ramp stages, LFO symmetry, stack voices)
- Improved processing efficiency
- FX modulation
- Manual LFO/EG retrig
- More FX
- More upper waveshapes
- More pan mod sources (e.g., noise)
- Selectable cable tension (the droop needlessly obscures the GUI in more complex patches)
- The ability to route gates and triggers freely
- The ability to modulate modulation amounts :tu:
- The ability to load ALL parameters (like seq steps, stack voices) into Live – I think these are MIDI mappable from within Bazille, but not Live can’t recognize them for some reason…)

I can't speak to the coding difficulty, but all these changes could be made without overhauling the GUI, which is awesome. Long live gearporn!
You can modulate modulation amounts using the multiples

One of the things I would like most is some of the stuff from Hive. Module presets for Osc's and Sequencer and Mod Mappers, copy/paste of Osc's (inputs not outputs)

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