Next updates to u-he Bazille
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themagicalkamja themagicalkamja https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=382481
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 122 posts since 14 Jul, 2016
Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.
Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
- KVRAF
- 2475 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Zebra is *way* older and *way* more in need of some updates than the more recent stuff, imo...themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.
- KVRian
- 1246 posts since 14 Apr, 2008 from /* whitenoise */
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- KVRian
- 652 posts since 2 Mar, 2015 from UK
What's Bazille missing?
- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.
Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
Hey I am thinking about getting Bazille in light of the group buy for some awesome presets for it. Why do you think it is their most impressive product?
Thanks!
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
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- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
Jax Pok wrote:What's Bazille missing?
like... stuff
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.
- KVRAF
- 7624 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
wagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.
well I think it is something you could take care of, better presets. I think the factory sounds are terrible.
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Well I already put out a library for Bazille.ATS wrote:wagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.
well I think it is something you could take care of, better presets. I think the factory sounds are terrible.
https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim/bazille-demo
- u-he
- 28065 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Hehehe, neither Diva nor Zebra have seen feature updates since we released Bazille. They're both due for it though.themagicalkamja wrote:Zebra and DIVA see lots of love from the devs at u-he. But Bazille - their most impressive product IMHO - is just collecting dust. It was released in 2014 but is only on version 1.1.
Has anyone heard about any upcoming updates? I'd be very excited to hear of any additional functionality (or improved processing efficiency...) coming to my all-time favorite synth!
I think Bazille is the most beloved synth internally at u-he headquarters and I can think of many ways to improve it. However, currently we're in the midst of something else so I can't elaborate much.
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- KVRAF
- 5818 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
I'd love to see visualisation of the modulation on the destination knob arc like Reaktor Blocks has.
- KVRAF
- 7363 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
All kinds of stuff could be added to Bazille. It's just a question of fitting it in without making it bloated, or having to completely redesign the UI around swapping optional modules around, so it starts to resemble something like Reaktor instead.
For instance, something I've kind of wanted is a simple delay, to build a Karplus-Strong patch for instance.
For instance, something I've kind of wanted is a simple delay, to build a Karplus-Strong patch for instance.
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themagicalkamja themagicalkamja https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=382481
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 122 posts since 14 Jul, 2016
resistent wrote:I don't know what is missing in Bazille? What kind of Update do you expect? While Zebra's and Diva's concept is open for some functional updates Bazille is a pretty close system. What do you think Bazille needs?
Jax Pok wrote:What's Bazille missing?
You guys just need to be more creative, there is always room for improvementwagtunes wrote:I can't even think of what you'd want to add to Bazille.
Just off the top of my head, in no particular order:
- More modulatable parameters (e.g., individual EG/ramp stages, LFO symmetry, stack voices)
- Improved processing efficiency
- FX modulation
- Manual LFO/EG retrig
- More FX
- More upper waveshapes
- More pan mod sources (e.g., noise)
- Selectable cable tension (the droop needlessly obscures the GUI in more complex patches)
- The ability to route gates and triggers freely
- The ability to modulate modulation amounts
- The ability to load ALL parameters (like seq steps, stack voices) into Live – I think these are MIDI mappable from within Bazille, but not Live can’t recognize them for some reason…)
I can't speak to the coding difficulty, but all these changes could be made without overhauling the GUI, which is awesome. Long live gearporn!
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- KVRAF
- 25446 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
You can modulate modulation amounts using the multiplesthemagicalkamja wrote:
Just off the top of my head, in no particular order:
- More modulatable parameters (e.g., individual EG/ramp stages, LFO symmetry, stack voices)
- Improved processing efficiency
- FX modulation
- Manual LFO/EG retrig
- More FX
- More upper waveshapes
- More pan mod sources (e.g., noise)
- Selectable cable tension (the droop needlessly obscures the GUI in more complex patches)
- The ability to route gates and triggers freely
- The ability to modulate modulation amounts
- The ability to load ALL parameters (like seq steps, stack voices) into Live – I think these are MIDI mappable from within Bazille, but not Live can’t recognize them for some reason…)
I can't speak to the coding difficulty, but all these changes could be made without overhauling the GUI, which is awesome. Long live gearporn!
One of the things I would like most is some of the stuff from Hive. Module presets for Osc's and Sequencer and Mod Mappers, copy/paste of Osc's (inputs not outputs)