Massive X 1.3 update!

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KVRAF
1811 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:29 am

I don't import my own wavetables. But Stein & Padshop2 folks doing a much better job at it than NI & MX. NI are turning in a big fat komplex komplete turd.

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Sinisterbr
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336 posts since 11 Mar, 2010

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:30 am

Yeah, I don't mind about importing WTs. I prefer its emphasis in sound quality. But a better browser is paramount.

SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:34 am

chk071 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:12 am
functionform wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:42 am
I get the history of Massive, but landscape has changed on wavetable synthesis, customization is everything
Speak for yourself...

As others, I wonder how many people there really are who import or create wavetables on their own.
I create my own wavetables. It's a blast. It's like creating colors and tints for later use. Keeping them in multiples of 2048 samples is a challenge though.

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Calenberger
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1406 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:36 am

SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:34 am
chk071 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:12 am
functionform wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:42 am
I get the history of Massive, but landscape has changed on wavetable synthesis, customization is everything
Speak for yourself...

As others, I wonder how many people there really are who import or create wavetables on their own.
I create my own wavetables. It's a blast. It's like creating colors and tints for later use. Keeping them in multiples of 2048 samples is a challenge though.
Have you tried SERUM?
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SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:54 am

Calenberger wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:36 am
SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:34 am
chk071 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:12 am
functionform wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:42 am
I get the history of Massive, but landscape has changed on wavetable synthesis, customization is everything
Speak for yourself...

As others, I wonder how many people there really are who import or create wavetables on their own.
I create my own wavetables. It's a blast. It's like creating colors and tints for later use. Keeping them in multiples of 2048 samples is a challenge though.
Have you tried SERUM?
Of course! I use it to correct wavetables. Although, now I've shifted my focus over to Phase Plant. Already imported all my wavetables from Serum :)

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Calenberger
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1406 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 10:57 am

SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:54 am
Calenberger wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:36 am
SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:34 am
chk071 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:12 am
functionform wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:42 am
I get the history of Massive, but landscape has changed on wavetable synthesis, customization is everything
Speak for yourself...

As others, I wonder how many people there really are who import or create wavetables on their own.
I create my own wavetables. It's a blast. It's like creating colors and tints for later use. Keeping them in multiples of 2048 samples is a challenge though.
Have you tried SERUM?
Of course! I use it to correct wavetables. Although, now I've shifted my focus over to Phase Plant. Already imported all my wavetables from Serum :)
Heard a lot of praise and good things about it.
A bit expensive, isn't it?
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SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 11:15 am

Omnisphere and Alchemy were both more expensive. They were worth it though. Ground breaking synths are usually in the $300 - $500 range. Massive was an exception, I think I paid $150 for it on sale, I think, way after the launch date... I got Massive X for $75 on sale and with a discount for owning Massive. I got Pigments on sale too from musicianfriend.com for only $99! But Alchemy, Omnisphere and Phase Plant are my top 3 favorites of all time.

(p.s.: f**k you Apple for buying out Camel Audio!!)

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Calenberger
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1406 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 11:23 am

SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:15 am
(p.s.: f**k you Apple for buying out Camel Audio!!)
Not my opinion: I got Alchemy 2 for free during an update of Logic Pro (without any fee). I love Apple! :love: :love: :love:
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SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 11:42 am

:clap: LOL Choke on them Apples! :hihi: :hihi:

SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 11:44 am

Have you ever used the old Alchemy? Those libraries are insane. Best granular synthesis EVER!

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Calenberger
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1406 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 12:14 pm

SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:44 am
Have you ever used the old Alchemy? Those libraries are insane. Best granular synthesis EVER!
Where can I find them?
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SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 12:38 pm

Calenberger wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:14 pm
SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:44 am
Have you ever used the old Alchemy? Those libraries are insane. Best granular synthesis EVER!
Where can I find them?
They won't do you any good on your Apple tarnished version of Alchemy, lol. They don't work on Logic's Alchemy 2. The old library only works with the original Alchemy. I only know of two 3rd party libraries for Alchemy 2:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/resurr ... -patchpool
and
https://www.pluginguru.com/products/alchemy-pp-mmdr/

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Calenberger
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1406 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 12:53 pm

SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:38 pm
Calenberger wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 12:14 pm
SiloCybin wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 11:44 am
Have you ever used the old Alchemy? Those libraries are insane. Best granular synthesis EVER!
Where can I find them?
They won't do you any good on your Apple tarnished version of Alchemy, lol. They don't work on Logic's Alchemy 2. The old library only works with the original Alchemy. I only know of two 3rd party libraries for Alchemy 2:
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/resurr ... -patchpool
and
https://www.pluginguru.com/products/alchemy-pp-mmdr/
I already have both of them.
There's another one coming fromLeap into the Void.
The Version 1 banks seem be be loadable into Version 2.
Haven't tried it yet, but saved some ressources for that venture.
:phones:
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functionform
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491 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 1:21 pm

Calenberger wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:09 am
functionform wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:42 am
Great update, but really wish we could import our own wavetables. It's 2020. It's the number one reason I tend not to open my copy of MX. What's the hold up? I get the history of Massive, but landscape has changed on wavetable synthesis, customization is everything - especially with a synth that clearly wants to define itself as an sound design tool first.
What wavetables do you have that make that difference?
:help:
Ones I make from combined physical instruments, tv shows, voices, plenty of stuff that NI would never include but that is extremely important to me in some private context. It only takes a little imagination to realize basic waves, metallic sounds, and chords aren't going to cut it if you actually love crafting sound.

SiloCybin
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27 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: Massive X 1.3 update!

Post Wed May 20, 2020 1:22 pm

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I already have both of them.
There's another one coming fromLeap into the Void.
The Version 1 banks seem be be loadable into Version 2.
Haven't tried it yet, but saved some ressources for that venture.
:phones:
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Really? well let me send you a preset I made for Alchemy 1 and you let me know if it loads properly in Alchemy 2. If that's really the case I may just put together a whole preset library for it.

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